This photo was just posted on my thread but I think I should share it with everyone else. Trumpeter is definitely listening to us, but pictures speak a thousand words.

No word on a release date

That would be right!

Just after I finish this (the build any way)



Is there anything else I can build in resin and etch, that can then be done in plastic, right after I finish? I was thinking about perhaps a Buffalo? hehe

SD

Hmmm cheap plastic kit VS resin kit.
The question would be "How Accurate" ... At least for those like myself with the "condition"

Sam, that question keeps me up at night too... Well ok not really because all I build is for sale..Heheh.
But it's surely a concern for me too since I'm scratchbuilding a Buffalo. ..I hope history is not going to repeat itself as it did with the hundreds I spent on my AAVs... only for HB to make them in plastic.

Its bound to happen for those who can't afford the mouse house gear or the fancy resin kits. I know my wallet took a big hit buying all the things for my ASLAV-25 AMTG but hey I have no regrets. I'll welcome the plastic and if there are mistakes or things that need to be replaced. I'll gladly fix them. Isn't that a part of the reason why we model?

I personally dread correcting mistakes..especially ones that the manufacturer could have done themselves.
I do enjoy enhancing with photoetch ,etc. And I don't expect the plastic coys to even include these in thier kits..but they do and that's a bonus.

I'm all for plastic kits, especially since I build multiples.. And I will buy at least 4 of these PCs. I totally support Trumpy as they are continuing to fill the gaps in the modern era market. They've come a long way and very quickly.
But I hope they would tweak their kits a little more, for one example : the recessed mold marks on their Strykers's hatches inner facing side. Yeah it's a nitpick as compared to other kits out there. But, it's these small things that may put off an AM company for producing an interior as they would have to include resin hatches as well....myabe I'm wrong... But now there's 2 Resin Interiors avail both for the AFV club.. None for Trumpys.
So I'm scratchbuilding an interior for my Trumpys instead and have to settle those hatches as well.

I really hope this ASLAV is going to impress us all. And like I said I will buy at least 4.. ..
Thumbs Up Trumpy...
PS: Please settle those recessed holes.

Canadian Bison can't be too far behind I suspect.

Yay! Just got to see how innacurate it is, (but wont worry me, i'll still buy a couple at least!), and next should be a Bushmaster!

One can only hope. Which can lead to the Amb, MRT, C3I,...


cheers

nice preview !!!

can't wait 2011

Clearly they do more than just listen to this Forum they copy from it too. This brings up an interesting issue, if small companies like Mouse House and Army Corp Models do the R&D work (at great expense) is anyone concerned about copyrights?

Regards
Bill

I think this would be an extremely hard argument to make unless one could prove without a shadow of a doubt that the molds were either directly reverse engineered or otherwise copied. Its akin to why it is almost impossible to copyright a list. If two items are intended to replicate an identical item, wouldn't one expect them to look the same? Even common errors could be explained away with suggestions of the use of the same reference material (this happens in print as well).

Regardless, copyright issues with companies based in the PRC have historically been met with little success in general, which adds an obstacle to a small firm trying to take on a much larger one in such a debate.

Sadly what this could mean is that those smaller companies may be more reluctant to share information and details online. Id like to be proved wrong but I cant see Trumpeter accrediting you guys for doing the research. So if it was me i'd be pretty pissed to see Trumpeter come along, copy my work, use all my research, then produce a model far cheaper than mine and take all my sales. This is indeed a very welcome release. But it does fit into a wider pattern of Trumpeter simply using this site for its research, but giving us non of the credit. I know for a fact they used some of my pics of the bar armor challenger as reference for their kit, never heard a word of thanks from them...

I discovered how "sexy" is the ASLAV PC P3 from your models guys and i must says i'm glad that trumpeter will do it.
i'll for sure get one and hopes they'll do an accurate job (specially on the engine deck area).

Copying goes both ways, I have a upgrade kit and parts for a Leo variant from a good resin company. there are bits in this kit that where clearly copied from Tamiya and Revells Leopard parts.
No big deal the resin company did'ent have to reinvent the wheel they just needed to get all the bits in one small box so we could make a decent model.

I have to add that the resin kit also had newly moulded parts in the kit. These new parts where the most important part of the kit.

Joe you seem to have a good handle on these types of issues and I didn't mean to imply that anyone should taken to task, I just know how much work Mouse House and ACM did just to have it pulled from under them. It wouldn't be hard for a company to buy the resin conversion and then re mold the resin and change a few things to call it their own it apparently happens all the time.
I wish they'd hurry up and use Seb's and my threads to build a Bushmaster.
Bill

Is it just me or is the Diemaco mount for the RWS on the trumpeter kit.... really really small? Just compare it to Sam's in the box below.... At first it looked like casting imperfection on the forward side of the mount, but then I realized it doesn't over hang the sights...

Neither Diemaco mounts (RWS vs 12.7 QCB MG mount) used on the ASLAVs match. I checked my references and not even the Plat MR555 gun ring mount was that small. they all over hanged the commanders sights (periscopes/episcopes... whatever).

Does anyone else see what I'm talking about?

Dare I say... here we go again??

Nope absolutely nothing wrong with it! Nothing at all.
Please Trumpeter go ahead and make this kit as soon as possible.

Cheers Jason

Sorry, but that is complete and utter rubbish. All the major manufacturers use researchers well distant from the company's HQ. Case in point was Tamiya, they could have simply bumped-up their little (48th) scale Tilly to 35th. They didn't they got one of the recognized specialists on the vehicle to do a model from scratch.

There are a lot of people out there researching for companies - WHERE the vehicles are. Designing/Releasing a model on the basis of a few images is simply NOT How it's been done - EVER...

There always going to be a market for complete and total accurate models from resin producers.
The plastic manufactures will always screw it up.

"screw it up" ..ouch Chris, I see where your coming from but I would say "have imperfections" or "errors" instead..

On another note, producing kits isn't straight forward, there is the business end of things, marketing, time-lines and dead lines, access to sources, information and accuracy, never mind copyright issues and credits. Cast designers are talented people, but at the end of the day they are just human and mistakes get made and imperfection occur, its a natural thing.

It should be mentioned what Trumpeter has been producing for the modern modeler the past few two years in particular has been amazing, they should be commended for they're courage releasing so many exciting kits and so quickly!
I admire the after-market producers too for they're hard work and time taken to correct these errors and produce different conversions allowing more options for us modelers. I love to see these new conversions and upgrades but without the original plastic manufacturers there would be no conversion sets to begin with and we should take this into account when we read threads complaining bitterly about inaccuracies (not this thread before someone jumps down my throat)..

..I've always believed that "perfecting" or super-detailing plastic kits meant scratching or purchasing after-market parts, the more detail you like the more it would cost in time and money. This can be fun for some and tedious for others but thats just the way it is, we all have our likes & dislikes in this addictive hobby but I guess thats what modeling is all about I suppose..

..thats just my rant for the day

I'm just messing around there are way to many good plastic kits to choose from. More then I could ever build. I also agree about Trump. there doing a good job with lots of new releases. Keep it coming.