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rcnpthfndr
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Posted: Saturday, March 20, 2010 - 02:28 PM UTC
this is sitting in a minefield in bagram, my google-fu hasnt turned anything up so i thought i would ask here. the drivers hatch has cyrillic writing on it.

so what is it?







i got some hi-res pics if you need a closer look.
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Posted: Saturday, March 20, 2010 - 02:59 PM UTC
I'm no experten, but it looks T-55 based to me.
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Posted: Saturday, March 20, 2010 - 03:46 PM UTC
BMR-1 - based on the T-54 chassis. Light support vehicle based on the MTP-3 which was based on the SU-122-54 chassis. Uses a BTR turret (-70 is my guess, but could have been upgraded to -80) with additional armor. Definately in A-stan.





All I could find with a quick search.
Navigator-111
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Posted: Saturday, March 20, 2010 - 04:18 PM UTC
Greetings guys. I collect the information on this car, help. I wish to make this model
rcnpthfndr
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Posted: Saturday, March 20, 2010 - 04:34 PM UTC
Jacques,

i was hoping you would see this this, yes its deifnately in A-stan since i took pictures of it yesterday. thanks for the info i knew you would know.

Vadim, shoot me an email and i will send you what pictures i have.

i am going to find a way around the minefield to take pics of the other side, maybe a pilot friend of mine can take one from the top.

thanks all
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Posted: Saturday, March 20, 2010 - 06:12 PM UTC
I will build model necessarily I will show

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Posted: Saturday, March 20, 2010 - 08:35 PM UTC

Quoted Text

BMR-1 - based on the T-54 chassis. Light support vehicle based on the MTP-3 which was based on the SU-122-54 chassis. Uses a BTR turret (-70 is my guess, but could have been upgraded to -80) with additional armor. Definately in A-stan.


The BMR-1 is based on the SU122-54 and has nothing to do with the T-54. It used some of the same componets as the T-54, the wheel spacing is very different and has a unique lower hull.



http://www.dishmodels.ru/wshow.htm?p=457

http://pblinov.narod.ru/krasnSU122/su122.html

That is not a BTR70 or 80 turret. It's a BTR-60 turret with additional armor or more likely stowage boxes mounted to it..

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Posted: Sunday, March 21, 2010 - 06:51 AM UTC
Addendum:


Quoted Text

BMR-1: based on T-54 COMPONENTS. Light support vehicle based on the MTP-3 which was based on the SU-122-54 chassis, WHICH WAS DERIVED FROM OBJEKT 600. Uses a BTR turret (-70 is my guess, but could have been upgraded to -80) with additional armor. Definately in A-stan.


BTR-60/70/80 turrets are fairly interchangeable...not exact drop-ins, but close. So while I agree that the BMR-1 STARTED with the BTR-60 turret, I would not be surprised in the least if they did not end up with the super-elevating BTR-70 or BTR-80 turret mid-late war A-stan.



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Posted: Sunday, March 21, 2010 - 03:44 PM UTC
cool find dad, thats an old looking tank, any other old tanks or vehicles
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Posted: Sunday, March 21, 2010 - 06:43 PM UTC

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...i am going to find a way around the minefield to take pics of the other side....l


holy crap! you are a SERIOUS modeler! most of just have to worry about slicing ourselves with a sharp hobby blade but THIS! this is taking it to the next level and then some for the sake of plastic building.

I salute your courage and dedication sir! Stay safe over there...
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Posted: Monday, March 22, 2010 - 02:22 AM UTC
alright made it around, so heres the other side. on the turret it looks like a wolfs face to the right of the turret numbers. on a side note, i know a SF guy who took down bagram in OIF 1, i am going to see what he knows about this vehicle if anything.





Turret Markings;

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Posted: Tuesday, March 23, 2010 - 11:38 AM UTC
Interesting turret closeups.

One hatch says BSSR - Byelorussian Soviet Socialist Republic. The other hatch text I can't make out so well from that photo.

A lot of Belarussian troops ended up serving in Afghanistan, actually my Father in-Law was supposed to be shipped out to Afghanistan, but was sent to the Czech Republic instead.

There is a very famous monument in Minsk, the Island of Tears that commemorates the Soviet Soldiers who lost their lives in that conflict. It's quite an amazing structure and covered in thousands of names.
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Posted: Tuesday, March 23, 2010 - 12:55 PM UTC
thanks for the translation and information. heres a close up of the drivers hatch

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