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DML's NEW Tiger 1 (Initial)
jimbrae
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Posted: Tuesday, March 23, 2010 - 10:35 PM UTC
Dragon Models have just announced their Latest Tiger 1 with; 6600 - Tiger I Initial Production, s.Pz.Abt.502, Leningrad Region 1942/43. Re-Edited Images of this New Release, can be seen:
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barkmann424
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Posted: Tuesday, March 23, 2010 - 10:52 PM UTC
Ahh Well it's not a Mid! 
But there are some very nice added details,added that the original #6252 did not include. The track solution (DS I presume?) should make it clearer on the handed and mirrored quandary! And I do like the muffler extension options, extreme ATD from David I expect? Should sell like... Well a DML Tiger!
The box art is stunning also.
I'll be shaking the piggy bank rather vigorously!
Cheers Phil.
But there are some very nice added details,added that the original #6252 did not include. The track solution (DS I presume?) should make it clearer on the handed and mirrored quandary! And I do like the muffler extension options, extreme ATD from David I expect? Should sell like... Well a DML Tiger!
The box art is stunning also.I'll be shaking the piggy bank rather vigorously!
Cheers Phil.
exer
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Posted: Tuesday, March 23, 2010 - 10:58 PM UTC
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So I am right in thinking that DML issued a kit of this already that is probably in a lot of stashes. But there are some very nice added details,added that the original #6252 did not include.
I bought one DML Tiger (Everyone should nuild at least one Tiger
) and the kit became obsolete almost before it arrived in the post.It is a good thing that they revisit and improve kits and obviously theres a market, I suppose the problem is with people stashing kits.
Sorry I'm rambling
MORE COFFEE!
darreng
Joined: January 21, 2006
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Posted: Tuesday, March 23, 2010 - 11:19 PM UTC
I'm looking forward to getting mine!
And I agree that box art is superb!
And I agree that box art is superb!
metooshelah
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Posted: Tuesday, March 23, 2010 - 11:25 PM UTC
Looks great. hope to get my hands on this one. shame only DS tracks and not magic tracks though
spetsnazgru
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Posted: Tuesday, March 23, 2010 - 11:52 PM UTC
it's always great whenever a Tiger tank is announced, hope DML would surprise us with a MID or EARLY Tiger.
Kuno-Von-Dodenburg
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Posted: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 - 12:16 AM UTC
Looks like a very nice kit, and no doubt it'll sell by the truckload.
I've already got a 6252 in the stash though, and with the economic climate being what it still is, that's going to have to do me .... for now .
- Steve
I've already got a 6252 in the stash though, and with the economic climate being what it still is, that's going to have to do me .... for now
.- Steve
jwest21
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Posted: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 - 02:29 AM UTC
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Looks great. hope to get my hands on this one. shame only DS tracks and not magic tracks though
I'll gladly swap the magic tracks in the initial I have for the DS tracks, if you buy it!
metooshelah
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Posted: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 - 04:15 AM UTC
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Quoted TextLooks great. hope to get my hands on this one. shame only DS tracks and not magic tracks though
I'll gladly swap the magic tracks in the initial I have for the DS tracks, if you buy it!
I will hold you to that
awrc
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Posted: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 - 05:24 AM UTC
I'm another with 6252 in the stash. While I'm sure this one's better, I see no reason to purchase this and ditch the one I haven't built yet. I'm not going to discourage DML though - if they continue to rework and rework German WWII stuff, they'll get decent sales from those people who'll buy anything German, plus it makes it easier for other companies to get sales by targeting other areas. For example, I don't think anybody doing modern armor (Abrams excepted), or non-German WWII armor (Shermans excepted) has to worry about finding themselves competing with DML. Maybe the Sd.Kfz.7 glut of 2009 has finally put an end to all of the needless duplication.
blaster76
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Posted: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 - 05:58 AM UTC
Seems I built one of these way back when. Ahh another DML "upgrade". Have the same problem with 350 scale ships. Fujimi and Hasegawa only do WW2 Japanese. Like DMl's fixation with german in tanks Thank God for Trumpeter. They do a mixture of stuff from the Nimitz fto the WW2 Richelieu.....and they also popped out a good T-62 and 48th Vigilante
Kuno-Von-Dodenburg
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Posted: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 - 06:09 AM UTC
I also notice that this kit retains the rather gimmicky spring-loaded recoiling barrel. I've never understood the point of having those on a static display model (as opposed to a kid's push-along toy).
- Steve
- Steve
CMOT
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Posted: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 - 06:57 AM UTC
I like the Tiger 1 as much as the next person but how many more duplicates are DML going to release? The way DML are going it will end up with releasing the same number of Tiger 1's as the Germans built and re built. I have the original 3 Tigers 1’s (Early. Mid, and Late) DML released that were all singing all dancing, and I am afraid that DML seems stuck in a rut especially as they are capable of so much more.
pseudorealityx
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Posted: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 - 07:17 AM UTC
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I like the Tiger 1 as much as the next person but how many more duplicates are DML going to release? The way DML are going it will end up with releasing the same number of Tiger 1's as the Germans built and re built. I have the original 3 Tigers 1’s (Early. Mid, and Late) DML released that were all singing all dancing, and I am afraid that DML seems stuck in a rut especially as they are capable of so much more.
My guess is that It takes minimal effort/cost to "upgrade" a kit rather than doing something all new. Besides, it will sell fairly well. Not everyone has a large stashes of kits sitting around, and this allows people to pick and choose exactly which vehicle they want.
As someone who's just getting back into the hobby, but remembers the size of the stash I had years ago, I'm trying quite hard to only buy maybe 1 kit ahead of what I'm actually building. Right now, I've got 2 in progress, 1 figure set in progress, and 1 kit in the "stash", and it still hasn't shown up in the mail yet.
Removed by original poster on 03/24/10 - 19:21:28 (GMT).
CMOT
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Posted: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 - 08:01 AM UTC
Jesse I understand what you are saying and why you are saying it, it is just my opinion that DML are no longer testing themselves and are throwing out the same products with a few changes. Tamiya got into the same rut and from what I am seeing only just starting to climb out of that rut and improve on their offerings.
As Jim R said in some ways it is good that DML are revisiting and improving the products they sell, but it is not exactly going to get the fans cheering in the aisles who have Tigers by the bucket full, where as if they released a Humvee (just as an example not a wish list) there would be people queuing to get hold of it and talking about DML in a very positive way. I am afraid the crown that DML won and deserved when they released their first all singing Tiger 1 is starting to slip.
As Jim R said in some ways it is good that DML are revisiting and improving the products they sell, but it is not exactly going to get the fans cheering in the aisles who have Tigers by the bucket full, where as if they released a Humvee (just as an example not a wish list) there would be people queuing to get hold of it and talking about DML in a very positive way. I am afraid the crown that DML won and deserved when they released their first all singing Tiger 1 is starting to slip.
pzcreations
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Posted: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 - 08:31 AM UTC
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I like the Tiger 1 as much as the next person but how many more duplicates are DML going to release? The way DML are going it will end up with releasing the same number of Tiger 1's as the Germans built and re built. I have the original 3 Tigers 1’s (Early. Mid, and Late) DML released that were all singing all dancing, and I am afraid that DML seems stuck in a rut especially as they are capable of so much more.
when did DML make a Mid Tiger I ?
ejasonk
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Posted: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 - 08:38 AM UTC
finelly! 
i´ve been waiting for that re-release for a long time. here it even comes with the bin on the turretrear. i found a nice profile of a Tiger 1 in Leningrad in AJ Press that impressed me.
Winter diorama,here i come..
i´ve been waiting for that re-release for a long time. here it even comes with the bin on the turretrear. i found a nice profile of a Tiger 1 in Leningrad in AJ Press that impressed me.
Winter diorama,here i come..
Jupiterblitz
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Posted: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 - 08:38 AM UTC
For me it is a good opportunity to get such a kit in 1:35 as I started to build seriously (military) scale models at the end of 2006 - at a time when the initial kit was disappearing and I myself was trying to get an overview of what kind of kits were offered and released at all.
Metal_blast
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Posted: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 - 08:54 AM UTC
It's nice to see 3 options for tracks, but again WHERE ARE THE MAGIC TRACKS 
Seeing as how they can include 3 types of track options, they should make one of those in plastic
It looks like it'll have less brass than the original release
, but still a welcomed one; I too missed out when it was released.
I can only assume a mid production will follow in sometime in the future.
Seeing as how they can include 3 types of track options, they should make one of those in plastic It looks like it'll have less brass than the original release
, but still a welcomed one; I too missed out when it was released. I can only assume a mid production will follow in sometime in the future.
Byrden
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Posted: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 - 09:00 AM UTC
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nice to see 3 options for tracks
Read more closely. It says three lengths of track, i.e. three distinct pieces of DS plastic, not three configurations or three sets of tracks.
It's possibly the world's first armor kit to include three.
David
metooshelah
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Posted: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 - 09:11 AM UTC
Well, I've missed other editions, so this will be my first. So i am happy that "another one" is being releases. But yeah, I too would like to see some new stuff and not the same things over and over with minor adjustments (which leaves you with the annoying sprue-salad where you get a kit with sprues from all over the place)
BTW Tim: i think they had a 3 in 1 kit that incorporated early, mid and late.
P.s: i don't get the "3 length" of tracks bit. If it's not 3 sets than what is the point?
BTW Tim: i think they had a 3 in 1 kit that incorporated early, mid and late.
P.s: i don't get the "3 length" of tracks bit. If it's not 3 sets than what is the point?
Byrden
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Posted: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 - 09:15 AM UTC
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i think they had a 3 in 1 kit that incorporated early, mid and late.
Dragon have never released a Mid Tiger, and in fact I don't think anybody has ever released a 1/35 Mid Tiger kit for the period July to October 1943. I've seen people combine several kits to build that. Tamiya has the later kind of Mid.
David
Jupiterblitz
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Posted: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 - 09:36 AM UTC
Hello Matan,
"i don't get the "3 length" of tracks bit. If it's not 3 sets than what is the point?"
It is necessary to know that the tracks of the very first Tigers were handed (track "a" and "b", but the same type of Gleisketten).
To get the common non-mirrowed configuration you have to replace "b" by a second track "a" (or vice versa - depends of the point of view )
So a+a+b=3
"i don't get the "3 length" of tracks bit. If it's not 3 sets than what is the point?"
It is necessary to know that the tracks of the very first Tigers were handed (track "a" and "b", but the same type of Gleisketten).
To get the common non-mirrowed configuration you have to replace "b" by a second track "a" (or vice versa - depends of the point of view
)So a+a+b=3
jwest21
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Posted: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 - 09:53 AM UTC
Well, I would like to see an early and a with all the options for any the various differences AND not make it a Cyberhobby kit that will not be a limited issue. I don't like that the only Dragon Early that I am aware of now costs $200-400. Actually, from a modelers perspective it would be cool if they had a few base kits and then sold various upgrade kits to make specific tigers like Wittmann's last or his Kursk or the DAK, etc
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