I've recently bought Trumpeter's E-10. I've been admiring the robotic and hostile look of it for some time.
I will upload some photos of the build when I get back home. I've nearly completed the assembly and about to begin priming.
On the other hand, since this vehicle is a "Paper Panzer" I am somehow in a liberty for the paint scheme, although some may say I have to apply late war camos.
I plan to apply a German Grey scheme. I like the look of grey painted German armor. It also opens a good opportunity for weathering. What do you say?
Plus, I may try for a Winter Scheme white wash on top. I've read a very good topic in MIG forums about winter wash using hair spray and there were really some very good examples in the thread.
See you later with some photos of my E-10.
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My E-10 Build and Questions
drkwing
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Posted: Wednesday, April 14, 2010 - 12:02 AM UTC
panzerbob01
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Posted: Wednesday, April 14, 2010 - 03:48 AM UTC
drkwing;
Go, E-10!
Just recently completed on - I did a probably more-conventional-looking sort of later tri-colour scheme. But you CAN do about anything you want, seeing as it "is" a paper panzer!
The grey scheme sounds pretty cool and different!
The hair-spray technique apparently really works - a friend recently did it for weathering a DAK Marder build. I was impressed and am going to try it for something like what you are maybe thinking - a winter-wash- on an old flakpanzer currently wearing a summer coat.
Just for distraction and giggles... here's my '10 in its first draft.
Go, E-10!
Just recently completed on - I did a probably more-conventional-looking sort of later tri-colour scheme. But you CAN do about anything you want, seeing as it "is" a paper panzer!
The grey scheme sounds pretty cool and different!
The hair-spray technique apparently really works - a friend recently did it for weathering a DAK Marder build. I was impressed and am going to try it for something like what you are maybe thinking - a winter-wash- on an old flakpanzer currently wearing a summer coat.
Just for distraction and giggles... here's my '10 in its first draft.
Gorizont
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Posted: Wednesday, April 14, 2010 - 07:56 AM UTC
Nice little beast!
It´s always interesting to see how the "what if" tanks (and other vehicles) could look like!
greetings...
Soeren
It´s always interesting to see how the "what if" tanks (and other vehicles) could look like!
greetings...
Soeren
GaryGore
Joined: November 05, 2006
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Posted: Wednesday, April 14, 2010 - 08:28 AM UTC
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drkwing;
Go, E-10!
Just recently completed on - I did a probably more-conventional-looking sort of later tri-colour scheme. But you CAN do about anything you want, seeing as it "is" a paper panzer!
The grey scheme sounds pretty cool and different!
The hair-spray technique apparently really works - a friend recently did it for weathering a DAK Marder build. I was impressed and am going to try it for something like what you are maybe thinking - a winter-wash- on an old flakpanzer currently wearing a summer coat.
Just for distraction and giggles... here's my '10 in its first draft.
What did you use for te wire mesh?
Otherwise and interesting and well done build.
panzerbob01
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Posted: Wednesday, April 14, 2010 - 08:46 AM UTC
GaryG...;
The "Thomas Schurzen" were created from fine-mesh "bridal veil" material about 16? squares to the US inch. Sold in all sorts of fabric and arts/crafts places. It is easy to work with, and holds enamels OK (good base coat).
Use the black or brown colours - not the red, white or blue, or hot pink!
The framing is made from 0.005 styrene with slices of stretched sprue for the rivets.
I will do a post on this build soon as I can get straight on how to!
The "Thomas Schurzen" were created from fine-mesh "bridal veil" material about 16? squares to the US inch. Sold in all sorts of fabric and arts/crafts places. It is easy to work with, and holds enamels OK (good base coat).
Use the black or brown colours - not the red, white or blue, or hot pink!
The framing is made from 0.005 styrene with slices of stretched sprue for the rivets.
I will do a post on this build soon as I can get straight on how to!
drkwing
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Posted: Wednesday, April 14, 2010 - 09:36 PM UTC
Bob, your E-10 really looks fascinating. It seems you have added some custom modifications from scratch, I really liked the commander's cupola with the periscopes. Do you have any build-photos of the cuıpola?
On the other hand, can anybody see any headlights on the vehicle? and what is the highlighted part? The cover on top seems like the blackout cover of a headlight, but I'm not sure.
On the other hand, can anybody see any headlights on the vehicle? and what is the highlighted part? The cover on top seems like the blackout cover of a headlight, but I'm not sure.
panzerbob01
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Posted: Thursday, April 15, 2010 - 01:14 AM UTC
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Bob, your E-10 really looks fascinating. It seems you have added some custom modifications from scratch, I really liked the commander's cupola with the periscopes. Do you have any build-photos of the cuıpola?
On the other hand, can anybody see any headlights on the vehicle? and what is the highlighted part? The cover on top seems like the blackout cover of a headlight, but I'm not sure.
Oykun;
Lots of scratch mods - The basic bits of the cupola were lifted from an old (1970!) Tamiya StuG III hulk I had in my closet and reworked for this application...
The item you have circled on your pic is a Notek convoy lamp. The kit item is pretty OK but needs care when cut from the sprue as the lip or rim is on the sprue point... and that lip wants to be pronounced all the way around the lamp. The kit offers an alternative "Bosch" can-style black-out headlamp, which might well be the better "historical" choice for a vehicle in "1946+", as the Notek was (I THINK!) being phased out in the later years...
I went with "cool" and used the Notek on mine!
padawan_82
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Posted: Thursday, April 15, 2010 - 01:20 AM UTC
hi Oykun nice build so far from the photo what you've highlighted it is the Notek light every german vehicle in ww2 had one. except heavy tanks like the panther, tiger, and tiger 2 i don't recall seeing any of them fitted with one, but if i'm wrong i'm sure someone on here who's more knowledgeable in such things will correct me. 
padawan_82
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Posted: Thursday, April 15, 2010 - 01:23 AM UTC
thanks for the info there Bob, so the Notek was being phased out, that's probably why none of the later war tanks were fitted with them then, thanks again 
drkwing
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Posted: Thursday, April 15, 2010 - 05:14 AM UTC
Thanks everyone for the notek lamp info.
Here are some progress shots:
The problematic suspension arms that needs to be filled with putty:
Hull top & bottom glued:
Here are some progress shots:
The problematic suspension arms that needs to be filled with putty:
Hull top & bottom glued:
panzerbob01
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Posted: Thursday, April 15, 2010 - 05:42 AM UTC
Uh huh. Those (kinda rough) suspension arms... 
Not one of Trumpeter's better efforts. Took me a fair bit of putty and fiddle, but at least they are mostly hidden beneath the better - looking parts!
I eventually fitted some small styrene-sheet "cover plates" over the front-most set for to cover what was otherwise a pretty mediocre job. I could imagine a sort of armour deflection plate like what appeared on various PZ IV suspension mounts might have been appropriate, as these units were supposed to "swing" to adjust height-above-ground... sounded like a good excuse anyway!
Not one of Trumpeter's better efforts. Took me a fair bit of putty and fiddle, but at least they are mostly hidden beneath the better - looking parts!
I eventually fitted some small styrene-sheet "cover plates" over the front-most set for to cover what was otherwise a pretty mediocre job. I could imagine a sort of armour deflection plate like what appeared on various PZ IV suspension mounts might have been appropriate, as these units were supposed to "swing" to adjust height-above-ground... sounded like a good excuse anyway!
drkwing
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Posted: Thursday, April 15, 2010 - 06:10 AM UTC
Hi Bob,
You have inspired me to come up with a commanders cupola with periscopes.
Now I'm trying to build one as well. I have found a periscope cover for commander's cupola from my stash. Now I'm building the periscopes which are 2.5mmx2.5mmx5.5mm rectangular boxes each with the front face chamfered towards the rear. But they are difficult and I have to come up with 7 of them....
On the roof of E-10, I glued the two halves of the hatch and supported the under section with a strip for added strength. I cut the hinges and the side looking periscope cover beside the hatch and sanded the area flat.
This is the view until 5 minutes ago before my destruction effort for the roof
You have inspired me to come up with a commanders cupola with periscopes.
Now I'm trying to build one as well. I have found a periscope cover for commander's cupola from my stash. Now I'm building the periscopes which are 2.5mmx2.5mmx5.5mm rectangular boxes each with the front face chamfered towards the rear. But they are
difficult and I have to come up with 7 of them....On the roof of E-10, I glued the two halves of the hatch and supported the under section with a strip for added strength. I cut the hinges and the side looking periscope cover beside the hatch and sanded the area flat.
This is the view until 5 minutes ago before my destruction effort for the roof
John_O
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Posted: Thursday, April 15, 2010 - 06:26 AM UTC
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Uh huh. Those (kinda rough) suspension arms...
Not one of Trumpeter's better efforts. Took me a fair bit of putty and fiddle, but at least they are mostly hidden beneath the better - looking parts!
Ah well, those of their E-50 and E-75 aren't much better. Mr. Surfacer to da rescue!
J
panzerbob01
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Posted: Thursday, April 15, 2010 - 07:50 AM UTC
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Ah well, those of their E-50 and E-75 aren't much better. Mr. Surfacer to da rescue!
J
Guess I'll take a breather, go do a Dragon kit or 2, maybe something from Tamiya, before going for a round with my Trumpeter E-25!
drkwing
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Posted: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 - 05:37 AM UTC
The build phase of my E10 is completed as of yesterday. Here is the primed E-10.
drkwing
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Posted: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 - 05:37 AM UTC
Additional shots:
panzerbob01
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Posted: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 - 08:58 AM UTC
O...;
Hey! Progress on the ol' E-10! And it looks GOOD!
Still planning on a grey paint scheme?
Bob
Hey! Progress on the ol' E-10! And it looks GOOD!
Still planning on a grey paint scheme?
Bob
drkwing
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Posted: Thursday, July 22, 2010 - 02:18 AM UTC
Thanks Bob.
Yeah the plan is still paint it first in a German Grey scheme and then apply winter wash using hair spray.
Yeah the plan is still paint it first in a German Grey scheme and then apply winter wash using hair spray.
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