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ww2 Soviet turret slogan question
10digitdeeo
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Posted: Wednesday, April 14, 2010 - 02:31 PM UTC
Hey guys,

I'm building Dragon's tT4-85 1/72nd kit, and the turret has decal options that say "червонец", or chernovits - which was the currency used outside of the USSR at the time. What would be the significance for the crew to paint it on their tank?

Thanks!

Alex
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Posted: Wednesday, April 14, 2010 - 02:55 PM UTC
Alex,
The proper translation is: Chervonits (B's are v's in Cyrillic). As to why, I haven't a clue.
Regards,
Georg
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Posted: Wednesday, April 14, 2010 - 04:37 PM UTC
hi alex, that is a most interesting because almost every soviet tank slogan i have ever seen is either some type of patriotic declaration or usually was some accredation for who may have made donations so that the tank could have been manufactured. but as a long time eastern front enthusiast i have seen this decal in kits for almost 30 years. i wonder could it possibly be a literal notation as if the tank was named money as it could be relied upon in action.
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Posted: Wednesday, April 14, 2010 - 11:07 PM UTC
Well,
chervonitz acutally are 10 russian roubles in old russia,but..

russian also called chervonetz a special card in a cardgame...

you can interpret the slogan chervonetz on tanks as something like : "lucky one" or kind of clever move or good card in the cardgame..that would mean something like "take that!"


10digitdeeo
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Posted: Thursday, April 15, 2010 - 03:06 AM UTC
Thanks guys! You've all been very helpful!

I like knowing what something is before I put it on my tank

acebatau
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Posted: Thursday, April 15, 2010 - 03:44 AM UTC
Hi Alex

Ok, in my opinion червонец is ukrainian meaning red, so probobly
crew trying to say that they are from Red (Soviet) Ukraine?
also 10 rubles in old Russia is in red color too.

Regards
Acebat
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Posted: Friday, April 16, 2010 - 06:08 AM UTC
"червонец"(chervonetz ) is ten rubles as has been said
"червонец"(chervonetz ) is similarly "фартовый"(fartoviy) (lucky)
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Posted: Sunday, December 26, 2010 - 10:56 AM UTC
Hello. I am from Russia.
In the Russian language is very similar words - Chervonets and Chervonny.
Червонец
Червонный
The first word - paper 10 Soviet rubles or 10 gold rubles USSR, or the Tsar's 10 gold rubles
The second word - a synonym for russian words - Red, Pure gold and hearts in card game . This word is often used in Ukraine, but in Russia - to understand exactly mostly how the Red.
In one of the Russian books on slogans on the tanks, I met a phrase - translators manufacturer models of tanks mixed with Chervonets Chervonny
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