I'm doing a Hanomag, Russian Front, '42. I'm going to do a medium gray and a dark gray in a tigerstripe pattern. My question is: Is this correct? I haven't been able to find any clear pictures showing a Hanomag having that type of pattern. I may just be looking at the wrong sites, or I may just be ignorant, probably both. #:-) Any advice or pictures would be extremely helpful. Thanks for your time.

Most of my resources show that stripes on grey vehicles were done with either mud or pa

nzer yellow paint which was starting to be introduced in 42'

hope this helps

Cant say Ive ever seen that, most of the early grey vehicles Ive seen are a monotone grey the dust and mud used to be the camo. I bet someone prooves me wrong.be lucky.

Thanks for your help. But I have another question: How do you put mud and/or dust on it and make it stick? Better yet, how do you make mud? Thanks for your time.

Don't know about accuracy, but the original Panzer Colors has a color plate (& b/w photos)which show a 251 and a Wespe w/ Panzergrau base oversprayed w/ green bands/stripes, in "spring 1942". Send me ur e-mail, MEBM, and I'll scan it for you.

Zoomie: just check the "members online" thing. Oh, and one more thing: How do I make mud and make it stick?

I believe H & K has that product. Use that or a real superfine dirt and mix with white paste (Elmer's) worked great for me

Thanks for the tips. How fine should the dirt be? Should it basically be dust? Thanks for your time.

Mix water with the MMP weathering powders...you then have mud !!...you then paint it on...simple if you have the powder...these are not just pigments...they have a PVA powder in them so the stick like...err....mud

What MMR weathering powders and where can I find them? Just regular hobby/model shops? Thanks for your time and tips.

Go to: www.ww2modelmaker.com/mmppigs.htm to order them directly. Or try ground-up (on a piece of sandpaper) artist''s CHALK (not oil) pastels (Hobby Lobby, Michael's, or any artist supply store). You could mix 'em w/ Tamiya Flat Base for dried mud, or Gloss if you wanted the freshly applied look.

Hi....you can find them here...

http://www.ww2modelmaker.com/mmppigs.htm

I tend not to use the grind method as it tends to lumb to big....with powder that have an additive in them its a lot smoother for painting...as it would be ...remember also it was often applied by hand or rags...it still is if your armour is delivered to Iraq in EU Green !!!

Alasdair

Rob Owens: Thank you, thank you, thank you for sending the e-mail with all the pictures in it. I (unfortunately) have no books with color pictures of German Armor. I have planes, ships, anything else that you can think of except armor. And Alasdair: thank you for the info. Thanks for your time.

To model mud I get some pollyfilla (spackle i think its called in the states) add some sand and a good dollop of acrylic earth coloured paint add water stir well then apply to vehicle, it will stick like S...t to a army blanket believe me. If you dont want the mud to thick just add some more water to thin it out.When dry paint to taste. hope this helps.

You're entirely welcome for the scans. Glad to have been able to help Hope we get to see ur finished project.

You guys will see as soon as I figure out how to use the scanner. Thanks

for mud mix pva glue, static grass and raw umber oil paint. no measurements really, but it does take a lot to patch small areas, butis worth the effort.

For simple mud ...just use White glue diluted slightly with water. some talcom powder from the baby dept. or baking soda. small bits of static grass or small dried herbs and add colour by throwing in some suitable acrylic colours. Mud is mud... therefore can have different textures, can have different colours, can have lumps, does splash etc, so dont worry too much about how it goes on. Just dont have it too thick in some places ... nice and flat. Show scale hand marks and areas that has been wiped by rags. If you are unhappy with parts ... just wash it off using q-tips and water!! When dry it can take washes and dry brushing. Should be messy ... but will look good when finished!!

Thanks for all the information, Plasticbattle. I finally have found out what PVA glue. Thanks.