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Shadowfax
Joined: November 02, 2006
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Posted: Saturday, April 24, 2010 - 04:42 PM UTC
I am nearly finished with this beast of a kit. It had changed hands in our modeling club several time, but I was the bloke that finished it.
See the rest of the photos at:
http://picasaweb.google.com/lopicma/M911CHET#
See the rest of the photos at:
http://picasaweb.google.com/lopicma/M911CHET#
Metal_blast
Joined: January 31, 2008
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Posted: Saturday, April 24, 2010 - 05:49 PM UTC
I absolutely love it! 
Petition2God
Joined: February 06, 2002
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Posted: Saturday, April 24, 2010 - 06:46 PM UTC
Superb job!
LarryLawler
Joined: March 30, 2010
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Posted: Monday, May 03, 2010 - 09:05 AM UTC
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I am nearly finished with this beast of a kit. It had changed hands in our modeling club several time, but I was the bloke that finished it.
See the rest of the photos at:
http://picasaweb.google.com/lopicma/M911CHET#
Very cool model! I didn't even know the kit existed! Is it still available? I've got the Accurate M1070/M1000 on order, and hopefully, I'll get started on it by mid summer, after I return home. I remember when the M911 tractor still was around, I guess I'm dating myself here! Great Job!
GI_Odie
Joined: May 05, 2010
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Posted: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 - 01:21 PM UTC
Quoted Text
I am nearly finished with this beast of a kit. It had changed hands in our modeling club several time, but I was the bloke that finished it.
See the rest of the photos at:
http://picasaweb.google.com/lopicma/M911CHET#
Very nice 911! The actual trucks were a bit of a beast too.
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Very cool model! I didn't even know the kit existed! Is it still available? I've got the Accurate M1070/M1000 on order, and hopefully, I'll get started on it by mid summer, after I return home. I remember when the M911 tractor still was around, I guess I'm dating myself here! Great Job!
Where did you find the M1070 kit and what is the scale?
Thank you,
Mike
Shadowfax
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Posted: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 - 11:29 PM UTC
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Where did you find the M1070 kit and what is the scale?
Thank you,
Mike
Mike, Check out this link:
[ulr]http://www.accurate-armour.com/ShowProduct.cfm?manufacturer=0&category=14&subcategory=20&product=1109[/url]
1/35th scale, and pucker up when you see the price!
GI_Odie
Joined: May 05, 2010
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Posted: Wednesday, May 05, 2010 - 03:53 AM UTC
Thanks Mark. I figured it would not be an inexpensive treat of a kit. One of the things I have decided to undertake before getting to projects like that is to build a scale version of each vehicle I had been assigned to during my past 20 years with the US Army. I found one of the kits for an M818 5 Ton Tractor going for around $120.00. The models I will be building are:
M109 2&1/2 ton shop van that was built on an M35A2 Chassis
M1008 CUCV pickup with troop carrying setup(basically a mid 80's Chevy pickup)
M35A2 troop carrier
M998 troop carrier
M1031 CUCV Contact truck
M1097 HMMWV Contact truck
M1078 LMTV
M1083 FMTV
A couple of these will be multiples since my intention is to build one for each assignment and vehicles such as the CUCV trucks were assigned at multiple locations. It will be quite an undertaking finding and building them faithflly to reflect my history in vehicles.
This does not count the M1152 TOW ITAS Carrier and the Stryker ATGM that are on top of the list for my office as the local rep for the TOW Itas program in Alaska.
Mike
M109 2&1/2 ton shop van that was built on an M35A2 Chassis
M1008 CUCV pickup with troop carrying setup(basically a mid 80's Chevy pickup)
M35A2 troop carrier
M998 troop carrier
M1031 CUCV Contact truck
M1097 HMMWV Contact truck
M1078 LMTV
M1083 FMTV
A couple of these will be multiples since my intention is to build one for each assignment and vehicles such as the CUCV trucks were assigned at multiple locations. It will be quite an undertaking finding and building them faithflly to reflect my history in vehicles.
This does not count the M1152 TOW ITAS Carrier and the Stryker ATGM that are on top of the list for my office as the local rep for the TOW Itas program in Alaska.
Mike
LarryLawler
Joined: March 30, 2010
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Posted: Saturday, May 08, 2010 - 09:15 AM UTC
Hmmm.... Interesting. I thought Talbert was just the manufacturer. I'm not sure what the M-desigination for the Talbert would be. Who used the Talbert? UK? Oh, btw, my platoon sgt. has a funny a funny story about hitting a camel in Saudi during DS in '91 because the M911 and trailer with a Bradley on wouldn't stop...
Shadowfax
Joined: November 02, 2006
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Posted: Saturday, May 08, 2010 - 12:13 PM UTC
Larry,
The parts in the Hobby Fan kit allow you to build both the US, domestic version as well as the exported one. I think a bunch of middle east countries bought it for hauling around their T-62s and M60s. The trailer is probably the export as well, thus "Talbert" - whoever he is? I haven't done much research on the trailer, so I can't be certain.
I hope the camel survived the ordeal... I rather like the critters.
Mark L.
The parts in the Hobby Fan kit allow you to build both the US, domestic version as well as the exported one. I think a bunch of middle east countries bought it for hauling around their T-62s and M60s. The trailer is probably the export as well, thus "Talbert" - whoever he is? I haven't done much research on the trailer, so I can't be certain.
I hope the camel survived the ordeal... I rather like the critters.
Mark L.
LarryLawler
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Posted: Sunday, May 09, 2010 - 02:52 AM UTC
Marcel, I was ondering about the Talbert trailer. Talbert makes trailers today for the military, specifically the M872, which we use with our M915 line haul tractor. If I remember correctly, was the Talbert trailer a fix to allow the M911 to haul the M1 Abrams? I have a picture of Talbert trailers hauling M1's in Desert Storm. I believe the M747 was only rated for 60 tons, but I could be wrong. Combat loaded M1 was considerably more than that, however. Does anyone out there have any other info on this topic? I mean, I would love to do an M911 tractor trailer build in the Desert Storm era, with a captured T-72 on it, something like that. But, if the trailer is dead wrong, what's the point? I think that Talbert trailer is good, though. I'll keep digging.....
LarryLawler
Joined: March 30, 2010
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Posted: Sunday, May 09, 2010 - 03:46 AM UTC
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Quoted TextI am nearly finished with this beast of a kit. It had changed hands in our modeling club several time, but I was the bloke that finished it.
See the rest of the photos at:
http://picasaweb.google.com/lopicma/M911CHET#
Very nice 911! The actual trucks were a bit of a beast too.Quoted Text
Very cool model! I didn't even know the kit existed! Is it still available? I've got the Accurate M1070/M1000 on order, and hopefully, I'll get started on it by mid summer, after I return home. I remember when the M911 tractor still was around, I guess I'm dating myself here! Great Job!
Where did you find the M1070 kit and what is the scale?
Thank you,
Mike
Mike, the M1070/ M1000 is from Accurate Armor, but it ain't cheap! I've yet to set eyes on it, as I'm still overseas, but I should be home real soon, and I'll get started on mine. Accurate Armor # K153
http://www.accurate-armour.com/ShowProduct.cfm?manufacturer=0&category=14&subcategory=20&product=1109
OK, well, good luck!
Larry
Thatguy
Joined: November 09, 2008
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Posted: Sunday, May 09, 2010 - 03:56 AM UTC
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This does not count the M1152 TOW ITAS Carrier...
Are you talking about the M1167 or was there a TOW carrier based on the M1152 before the introduction of the purpose built M1167?
LarryLawler
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Posted: Sunday, May 09, 2010 - 03:56 AM UTC
Mark, like I mentioned in my earlier post, Talbert makes the M872 line haul flatbed trailer that we use with our M915 line haul tractors. Talbert has been doing trailer work for the military for years. On their website, they have a pic of an M1A1 being loaded during Desert Storm. I'll dig a bit deeper, but I think the issue with the M747 trailer might have to do with the weight of the M1 system. The M60 came in around 60 tons, give or take, whereas the M1, combat loaded, is considerably heavier. I think the M747 was rated for 60 tons. The Talbert trailer might have been a stop gap until the M1070 tractor, M1000 trailer came on line. Like I said, I'll do some more homework on this topic. Accurate Armor has a Fruehauf/Ward LaFrance trailer that looks a bit like the M747, but I gotta look at it a lot closer before I thoroughly put my boot in my mouth. Great piece, your M911 BTW! I remember those beasts from Ft. Drum waaay back in the day! Awesome! Oh, BTW, the camel went on to paradise. Sorry....
Take care!
Larry Lawler
Take care!
Larry Lawler
GI_Odie
Joined: May 05, 2010
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Posted: Sunday, May 09, 2010 - 04:07 AM UTC
Quoted Text
Quoted TextThis does not count the M1152 TOW ITAS Carrier...
Are you talking about the M1167 or was there a TOW carrier based on the M1152 before the introduction of the purpose built M1167?
The HMMWV's we were set up to get were briefed to us as 1152's, however as I look at the photos they are not the ones we would have gotten, as they are two door armored variants. They may have inadvertantly given us the wrong model number and at any rate they still have not been fielded ot the units after three years from the time of the briefing.
Mike
Thatguy
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Posted: Sunday, May 09, 2010 - 04:17 AM UTC
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The HMMWV's we were set up to get were briefed to us as 1152's, however as I look at the photos they are not the ones we would have gotten, as they are two door armored variants.
Probably just some confusion in model numbers. I was just curious, as there were plans to convert a number of M1152s into soft-top ambulances, so I wanted to know if there had been other projects using the standard M1152.
LarryLawler
Joined: March 30, 2010
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Posted: Monday, May 10, 2010 - 08:17 AM UTC
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Marcel, I was ondering about the Talbert trailer. Talbert makes trailers today for the military, specifically the M872, which we use with our M915 line haul tractor. If I remember correctly, was the Talbert trailer a fix to allow the M911 to haul the M1 Abrams? I have a picture of Talbert trailers hauling M1's in Desert Storm. I believe the M747 was only rated for 60 tons, but I could be wrong. Combat loaded M1 was considerably more than that, however. Does anyone out there have any other info on this topic? I mean, I would love to do an M911 tractor trailer build in the Desert Storm era, with a captured T-72 on it, something like that. But, if the trailer is dead wrong, what's the point? I think that Talbert trailer is good, though. I'll keep digging.....
OK, here's what I've figured out thus far, this is from Jane's:
For use during activities associated with operations Desert Shield and Desert Storm, the US Army procured 150 Talbert T4LW-64M-FG 64,000 kg payload, tank transporter semi-trailers. These commercially designed semi-trailers were used for the road transport of either a single M1 Abrams MBT, or two M2/M3 Bradley fighting vehicles.The Talbert 64 tonne semi-trailer has a usable cargo bed length of 12.041 m and a width of 3.609 m. Maximum towing speed is 88 km/h. The main spring beam suspension consists of four axles, carrying two roadwheels each side. Spring-loaded and balanced loading ramps are provided. The gooseneck has provision for a spare wheel and carrier and a water tank. A shorter and lighter version of this semi-trailer is available, as is a version with an off-road suspension.Talbert also produces a tank transporter semi-trailer known as the T4LW-60M-FG, which is in service with the Republic of China Marine Corps in Taiwan. It can be used to transport one M48 MBT or M88 ARV, two M41 light tanks, or two M113 APCs. The data in the specifications table all relate to this model.The Talbert model T5DW-70-HRG-T1-3/2 semi-trailer is in service with US Army National Guard units and Aberdeen Proving Grounds for the transport of loads of up to 63,490 kg (70 tons) over public highways with road-legal weights and dimensions.The T5DW-70-HRG-T1-3/2 has five axles, two of which are self-steering, plus a two-axle dolly. The self-contained hydraulic gooseneck removes from the trailer bed for the front-loading of vehicles.
Works for me! Now, I gotta see if the people at Talbert have any pics of these critters. They have one on their website, but it's not that good of a shot. But it does look like the Hobby Fan model. So, I think it's gonna work for my DS model.
LarryLawler
Joined: March 30, 2010
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Posted: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 - 01:46 AM UTC
Marcel, very interesting. The shot on Talbert's website kinds sorta verifies the civilian tractor idea, but I would not rule out the possibility that the military actually ran the Talbert behind M911's- Remember, we're talking wartime, and damn near anything goes. My platoon sergeant over here now ran them in DS, but he cant recall the exact weight rating, but he believes it was 65 tons. They hauled all kinds of stuff around SA and Kuwait, far S. Iraq, so it's not out of the realm of possibility that the trailer would've been used. Well, in any case, it would be a neat model, but I always like to build from some sort of prototype reference. I don't have any of my reference books available to me here, being deployed right now, but when I get stateside, I look around, see what I can track down! But before I get hot on this idea, I've got a few other projects to deal with, like an up-armored M1070/M1000 HET, the M1151 Humvee conversion, and a kitted out M1030 Stryker commo version. Hmmm.... now, all I gotta do is find the time! Take care,
Larry Lawler
Larry Lawler
ti
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Posted: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 - 03:19 AM UTC
A darn fine build you got there. How long did it take you to build it?
mat
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Posted: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 - 05:29 AM UTC
Hi guys,
I have the c-het myself, I was checking for inaccuracies. One thing I found out that mudguard of the front wheels is different on various pictures. Some pics show an extra side cover (extending forward till the side of the radiator, in front of the front wheels). I only see this on pics of the export version, the US version has an extended (downward) side panel of the hood. Is this conicidental or does it apply for all vehicles?
Matthijs
I have the c-het myself, I was checking for inaccuracies. One thing I found out that mudguard of the front wheels is different on various pictures. Some pics show an extra side cover (extending forward till the side of the radiator, in front of the front wheels). I only see this on pics of the export version, the US version has an extended (downward) side panel of the hood. Is this conicidental or does it apply for all vehicles?
Matthijs
Shadowfax
Joined: November 02, 2006
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Posted: Friday, June 24, 2011 - 03:16 PM UTC
I have to admit I had no ideal there were two different versions, and they were so dramatically different. You can build either version in this kit, but they don't tell you how... you have to figure it out yourself. If it ever comes out in plastic, I might take another run at it.
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