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For Vietnam diorama subjects or techniques.
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Vietnam war. ( the step builds dio. Vietnam )
adisak
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Posted: Sunday, May 09, 2010 - 11:07 PM UTC
Hello! friends everyone , now I begin to build war Vietnam background 1/35 take a photograph the step comes to give friends ,help advise me with

building step use the techinque , be like that ever bring post last time

but building is this time but , building is this time I weave the bamboo for do the wall mound area.


***** I print England not excellent , beg for explain with the picture.




















mold sand sack , mold the bamboo , and do the equipment decorates .
















adisak
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Posted: Sunday, May 09, 2010 - 11:15 PM UTC
build the mound , and bamboo wall .














***** I hope that the step is these may like friends. today ask to leave go to before ...

respectfully everyone
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Belt_Fed
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Posted: Sunday, May 09, 2010 - 11:35 PM UTC
The M16 laying on the box is incorrect; M16s in the 60's had a black plastic, triangular shaped foregrip, not the circular one on your dio. Also, the barrel does not break like that, it bends down toward toward the ground and takes the upper half of the receiver with it.

Hope that helps and I look forward to seeing the next step!
ausboarder
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Posted: Sunday, May 09, 2010 - 11:50 PM UTC

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The M16 laying on the box is incorrect; M16s in the 60's had a black plastic, triangular shaped foregrip, not the circular one on your dio. Also, the barrel does not break like that, it bends down toward toward the ground and takes the upper half of the receiver with it.

Hope that helps and I look forward to seeing the next step!



Jeeeeeeeeeeesus! you must like your fine details!


Nice work on the base, i like it.
grunt26
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Posted: Monday, May 10, 2010 - 12:13 AM UTC
Overall, I like it, but in all my years of Vietnam modeling, book reading, picture studying, looking at my father's pictures from Nam, etc., I have NEVER seen a bamboo wall like the one you've constructed. Its a great piece of work, just questioning the accuracy. That, and the M16 doesn't break down like that. Nice groundwork, nice figures. But if I were you, you may want to change that bamboo wall to sandbags.

Rod
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Posted: Monday, May 10, 2010 - 03:03 PM UTC
i'm agree with Rod Crisman. I never see any bamboo wall before in Vietnam war!. M16 is also.
grimmo
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Posted: Monday, May 10, 2010 - 06:15 PM UTC
as much as i want to agree with the anal retentive nit pickers on this site, its looking great! good idea, well executed!

True the M-16 doesnt break down like that, but who cares? Are you going for historical 100% accuracy? Or do you build for fun? I'd stay with what you have done so far, and stuff everyone else.
adisak
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Posted: Monday, May 10, 2010 - 07:30 PM UTC
thank in an advice from friends everyone be valuable with I very much , induce adjust improve thank highly at help advise I , for good data.

I like at you prints very much Matt Paine , you understand the word that , a hobby deeply , our hobby plays for relax


weave the bamboo , there is many the size , and many the way but must thank at friends helps to advise and the data that is valuable extremely.

adisak
callmehobbes
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Posted: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 - 04:39 AM UTC
I love your modelling technique - Your bases look like something you'd expect from Verlinden or any other top manufacturer. I can't comment on accuracy but artistically you are an inspiration!
parrot
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Posted: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 - 10:48 AM UTC
adisak,
I have to agree with Matt.I think it's looking great.I'm sure with enough research and wasted time you could find a bamboo retaining wall in Viet Nam.It is also very well done.Will watch for your updates.Enjoy the hobby not the negatives.
HeavyArty
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Posted: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 - 11:47 PM UTC
The construction looks great. Great job. The bamboo wall could probably be found, but the M16A2 broken in half was never there. It would be easy to replace it with the correct M16A1 and properly break it down. Unfortunately, most of us are accuracy freaks and it will diminish your diorama if it has a glaring inaccuracy like an M16A2 in Vietnam.
flipper21
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Posted: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 - 02:57 AM UTC
Hi Adisak, Beautiful work so far. I'm looking forward to more updates....Vince
joeyjamin
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Posted: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 - 10:22 AM UTC
sawadee krap oohh..i like it it look good pum phen kon thai krap...
parrot
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Posted: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 - 12:05 PM UTC
I would listen to Gino.
I'm sure he knows what he's talking about.
Polaris
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Posted: Thursday, June 24, 2010 - 12:59 AM UTC
Nice , i like it
WLJayne
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Posted: Thursday, June 24, 2010 - 08:04 AM UTC
Really nice work, I aggree that its of the same quality of the top manufacturers !.

I don't know about the bamboo wall, i like how it looks but I don't know whether its accuarate or not. But a beautiful technique.

As for the M16, the handguard is wrong, yes. However an M16 could be broken down like that if you unscrewed the delta ring and removed the front portion then re-attatched the upper reciever .

However, I don't think these are important details if you are just doing this for fun. I've seen many perfectly accurate but totally lifeless dioramas - go for character first then accuracy second is what I say . Really, really great work I'm looking forward to your updates.

Will.
jakes357
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Posted: Thursday, June 24, 2010 - 06:53 PM UTC
Hi,
I'm not a rivit counter by any means,and artistically it's great,but he did ask for critique/suggestions.

Nothing I read was unreasonable and would greatly improve this already great dio even more.

Drive on Adisak,and learn from those that would help you.

Jake
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Posted: Friday, June 25, 2010 - 01:33 AM UTC

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However, I don't think these are important details if you are just doing this for fun. I've seen many perfectly accurate but totally lifeless dioramas - go for character first then accuracy second is what I say


Yeah, but some very simple fixes, that increase the accuracy are "handed on a plate" here, and although you are right in one way in what you say, many modellers appreciate these kind of details from those who have more knowledge in the relevant scene.

Adisak. Another great base you have built up. I love your scratch methods ... you´ve definatly captured the essence of the scene.
WLJayne
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Posted: Friday, June 25, 2010 - 01:56 AM UTC

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Yeah, but some very simple fixes, that increase the accuracy are "handed on a plate" here, and although you are right in one way in what you say, many modellers appreciate these kind of details from those who have more knowledge in the relevant scene.



Absolutely, I for one would act on the advice handed out in this instance because as you said they are very simple fixes. I think I saw some resin AR15s around somewhere but I can't remember where. But you wouldnt really need them, you could quite easily scratchbuild the AR15 handguard and attatch the original muzze and iron sight. It wouldn't be too diffficult to cut the receiver apart in a recognizable way either. He's got the character here for sure and with a few tweaks he'll have the accuracy too - and a first rate diorama !

Will.
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Posted: Monday, June 28, 2010 - 06:57 AM UTC
Anyone who has trained with an M16A1 knows that the thing is incorrect but If I were you,I wouldn't loose any sleep over it as a lot of your critics probably don't model nearly as well as you do......Great job....Al....
WLJayne
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Posted: Monday, June 28, 2010 - 10:05 AM UTC

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Anyone who has trained with an M16A1 knows that the thing is incorrect but If I were you,I wouldn't loose any sleep over it as a lot of your critics probably don't model nearly as well as you do......Great job....Al....



That came across as a little hostile, I hope that wasn't the intention. The criticism that has been voiced here has been decent and constructive, there hasn't been anyone who said "thats terrible and all wrong and there's nothing you can do about it." There is a difference between giving someone options and talking down to them. I'm pretty sure we all aggree that the model is awesome. I'll be interested to see how Adisak responds to this all.

Will.
retiredbee2
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Posted: Monday, June 28, 2010 - 10:26 PM UTC
Didn't mean to appear hostile. Just seems that some folks go a little overboard with the way they critique and then never post anything of their own. Maybe I overreacted remembering some of the rips and tears doled out at some of the modelers in past critiques. I, also, am one to point out the boo boos , and try to be nice about it........Al
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Posted: Monday, June 28, 2010 - 11:11 PM UTC
Nice going with the ground work.

Some friendly photos to consider about the M16.








cheers
WLJayne
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Posted: Monday, June 28, 2010 - 11:24 PM UTC

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Didn't mean to appear hostile. Just seems that some folks go a little overboard with the way they critique and then never post anything of their own. Maybe I overreacted remembering some of the rips and tears doled out at some of the modelers in past critiques. I, also am one to point out the boo boos , and try to be nice about it........Al



No worries, sometimes it's difficult to work out the tone of a sentence over the interwebs eh . As I always say "if in doubt assume benevolence." Being fairly new here I haven't seen any particularly bad rivet-wars but I've no doubt there have been a few here in the past, which is regrettable. Constcuctive criticism is hard to give on the net as it's so easy to read wrong. Thanks god for emoticons !

Unclebob those are really nice photos, I assume thats the real steel? I have an airsoft M16A1 with the early duckbill flash hider. It's difinately one of the favourites in my collection. Just a point of personal curiosity, can anyone tell me when the flash hiders went from duck bill to bird cage? The soldier hated the duck bills as they got caught in foliage in the jungle so I'm told. Not something you could easily represent in 1/35 hehe .

I'll be starting my M113A1 ACAV soon, this dio has inspired me to get started on it.

Will.
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