Hobby Boss's 1/35 T-26E4 Super Pershing
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Posted: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 - 06:39 PM UTC
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Posted: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 - 06:51 PM UTC
Hey Ivan,
Good work on your Pershing !!
Just got this kit the other day and was impressed with the detail.
I've read that the the back of the "wing" armour needs to be replaced or filled in.
What's your opinion on that?
Cheers
jjumbo
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Posted: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 - 07:01 PM UTC
I built it straight out of the box - I can't vouch for accuracy, even though I did re-read Belton Cooper's account for this vehicle in "Death Traps" prior to building it (more of an inspiration, less of a technical insight).
The kit assembles very fast - if you skip the engine... If I were building it again, I'd probably mess around with add-ons, stowage and improving detail (but I got too impatient to paint).
Have a good build with yours!
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Lebanon
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Posted: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 - 07:16 PM UTC
Hey Ivan, this is Jam the man from MP.net, great build. the weathering is superb.
Al Qahirah, Egypt / لعربية
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Posted: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 - 07:43 PM UTC
Great looking model, Ivan... absolutely love the weathering!
I've been thinking about getting this kit for a while.. and now that I've seen yours.. I'm definitely getting it.
Hisham
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Posted: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 - 08:27 PM UTC
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Hey Ivan, this is Jam the man from MP.net, great build. the weathering is superb.
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Posted: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 - 11:45 PM UTC
Looks great Ivan! Interesting to compare it to the Accurate Armor Conversion set. I'm currently building (well, weathering actually) the Super Pershing for the tank overhaul campaign. One thing that pops out is the armored cover for the hydraulic counter balance cylinders is a lot higher and thicker on the HB offering. Also the cylinders themselves look thinner than on the AA offering.
The track looks good, is it single link or rubber band?
Cheers!
Stefan
EDIT: One more remark: Cooper hat black bands of Cammo added. Are they just not that visible or did you leave them off? Cheers!
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Posted: Thursday, May 20, 2010 - 03:43 AM UTC
The hollow backs of the "bat wing" armor indeed should be filled as these were flame cut pieces of armor plate that were just welded to the T26E4 manlet. Also all builders should be aware that the white "2" and "A" on the tank were definitely post-war markings -- added after the cessation of hostilities. Photos also show this tank to be clearly painted with the black camo like other 3AD tanks.
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Posted: Thursday, May 20, 2010 - 03:45 AM UTC
I heard the front plate was actually from a Panther, so that one definately needs to be filled in. I also filled in the wings. I cannot imagine why they would weld on hollow ones
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Posted: Thursday, May 20, 2010 - 05:09 AM UTC
Hey, Stefan
I built this tank straight from the instruction booklet - I've missed the black camo bit
Tracks are individual link
Oh, and for the wing armor - the front certainly represents two armor plates welded together, I will certainly be filling them in on my future build (aka, sequel). I also imagine some additional weld seams, torch cut edges are in order.
Anybody got a color plate handy of what black camo looked like? I admit to being a bit of a dud when it comes to US/Brit armor (but I'm learning). Big thanks in advance!
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Posted: Thursday, May 20, 2010 - 07:02 AM UTC
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The hollow backs of the "bat wing" armor indeed should be filled as these were flame cut pieces of armor plate that were just welded to the T26E4 manlet.
Thanks Roy,
It does look odd being hollow.
I wonder why Hobby Boss got that so wrong while did such a good on the rest of the kit ?
Cheers
jjumbo
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Posted: Thursday, May 20, 2010 - 07:16 AM UTC
Wow, that is fantastic work! Man, I would like to see how you weather that thing...beautiful!
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Posted: Thursday, May 20, 2010 - 09:34 AM UTC
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The hollow backs of the "bat wing" armor indeed should be filled as these were flame cut pieces of armor plate that were just welded to the T26E4 manlet. Also all builders should be aware that the white "2" and "A" on the tank were definitely post-war markings -- added after the cessation of hostilities. Photos also show this tank to be clearly painted with the black camo like other 3AD tanks.
black camo? can you explain a bit further, it sounds really interesting....
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Posted: Thursday, May 20, 2010 - 10:52 AM UTC
When S Zaloga built his, he included lots of pics of the T26E4 in the depot after the war. They are all included in his Milmod online article. Move your cursor below the texts that "pic 8" and that will bring up the other pics.
http://www.militarymodelling.com/news/article.asp?a=3690If you wanna see mine, it was a TL blog:
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Posted: Thursday, May 20, 2010 - 03:08 PM UTC
looking at images in hunnicut's Pershing book, and having a few questions answered on ML, I am doing my build this way. I removed the round vents on the sponson box covers. I am using the short travel lock. I will be representing the image f the vehicle "before" the bat wings were added.
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Posted: Thursday, May 20, 2010 - 03:26 PM UTC
Carl: according to B Cooper, once they added the nose armor and the mantlet slab, they took the T26E4 out for trials. The immediately found the mantlet threw out the balance of the gun. They drove it back into the work area and added the "bat wing" armor which solved the imbalance. Funny thing is a photo of this configuration exists in the Sq/Signal book. However, know that it only was like this for a few hours of its life.
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Posted: Thursday, May 20, 2010 - 05:03 PM UTC
Hobbyboss have released a new one calling it "Pilot #2".. how is this different than this kit. Which was actually used in the field? I want to decide which one I should get.
Hisham
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Posted: Thursday, May 20, 2010 - 05:44 PM UTC
Only pilot #1 saw combat. Pilot #2 stayed in the USA and production T26E4s were patterned after it. The turret rear counter weight was different I know.
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Posted: Thursday, May 20, 2010 - 07:48 PM UTC
Hobby Boss also makes the production version of the T26E4:
They certainly have the Pershing variants covered.
Let's hope they do the T23, T25 and T26 prototypes, especially the ones that got into limited production.
Cheers
jjumbo
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Posted: Thursday, May 20, 2010 - 07:54 PM UTC
With one exception - the T26E3 WW2 variant - Only DMl ever did the correct WW2 variant.
AL
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Posted: Thursday, May 20, 2010 - 08:31 PM UTC
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They certainly have the Pershing covered.
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With one exception - the T26E3 WW2 variant - Only DMl ever did the correct WW2 variant.
AL
Hey Al,
Does HobbyBoss actually make a T26E3 variant or is it a M26 variant ?
I can't recall seeing a review for the T26E3 version.
jjumbo
Arthur Hamilton Jukes
July 6th, 1922 - June 20th, 2009
Dad, it's been a year now but your love will always be with us.
The Canadian Scottish (Princess Mary's)
Motto - "DEAS GU CATH" - Ready for the Fray
March - Blue Bonnets Over The Border
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Posted: Friday, May 21, 2010 - 07:36 AM UTC
Pilot 2 had the springs on the outside, and an oval loader's hatch. Production vehicles had a better interior equilibrator, so no external springs.
Also, looking at pilot #1, the shorter travel lock was on the one I am doing.
@ Roy, I want to do the one from that brief moment in time.
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Posted: Friday, May 21, 2010 - 08:34 AM UTC
Wow that looks awesome. I like the dirt and dust weathering, very realistic.
Rob
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