Hosted by Darren Baker
M1A1 AIM radio antenna 1/35th length & guage?
bill_c
Campaigns Administrator
New Jersey, United States
Joined: January 09, 2008
KitMaker: 10,553 posts
Armorama: 8,109 posts
Joined: January 09, 2008
KitMaker: 10,553 posts
Armorama: 8,109 posts
Posted: Friday, June 11, 2010 - 03:58 AM UTC
Am not satisfied with my Abrams build after seeing this build, and would like to add realistic radio masts. I presume some gauge of wire (guitar string?) would work, but what gauge and what scale length? TIA
HeavyArty
Florida, United States
Joined: May 16, 2002
KitMaker: 17,694 posts
Armorama: 13,742 posts
Joined: May 16, 2002
KitMaker: 17,694 posts
Armorama: 13,742 posts
Posted: Friday, June 11, 2010 - 05:05 AM UTC
I use 0.020 plastic rod for all my antenni. For a modern FM SINCGARS antenna, 2.75 inches in 1/35 is equal to the 8 foot 1:1 length.
chnoone
Armed Forces Europe, United States
Joined: January 01, 2009
KitMaker: 1,036 posts
Armorama: 1,033 posts
Joined: January 01, 2009
KitMaker: 1,036 posts
Armorama: 1,033 posts
Posted: Friday, June 11, 2010 - 06:01 AM UTC
Are you sure this is a built kit? Looks like a rendered 3D image to me.
Besides the appearance looks a little "weird", you‘ve done a good job on yours ..... finally with all that "help".
Some thin fiber optic cable might do the trick!
Cheers
Christopher
Metric Gino, Metric
Besides the appearance looks a little "weird", you‘ve done a good job on yours ..... finally with all that "help".
Some thin fiber optic cable might do the trick!
Cheers
Christopher
Metric Gino, Metric
Frenchy
Rhone, France
Joined: December 02, 2002
KitMaker: 12,719 posts
Armorama: 12,507 posts
Joined: December 02, 2002
KitMaker: 12,719 posts
Armorama: 12,507 posts
Posted: Friday, June 11, 2010 - 07:12 AM UTC
Quoted Text
Are you sure this is a built kit? Looks like a rendered 3D image to me.
I agree. If you read the comments below the pics, they mention stuff like "textures" and "bump map"...
Frenchy
PS : talking about guitar strings, I've read somewhere that the "E" string should be OK for most 1/35 antennas...
lukiftian
British Columbia, Canada
Joined: March 12, 2010
KitMaker: 791 posts
Armorama: 592 posts
Joined: March 12, 2010
KitMaker: 791 posts
Armorama: 592 posts
Posted: Friday, June 11, 2010 - 07:28 AM UTC
Quoted Text
I use 0.020 plastic rod for all my antenni. For a modern FM SINCGARS antenna, 2.75 inches in 1/35 is equal to the 8 foot 1:1 length.
I don't believe plastic rod would be appropriate for what you want to do if you're attempting to replicate those antennae, but steel guitar strings might. A package is about $4, enough for the rest of your life. Thinnest gauge you can find.
HeavyArty
Florida, United States
Joined: May 16, 2002
KitMaker: 17,694 posts
Armorama: 13,742 posts
Joined: May 16, 2002
KitMaker: 17,694 posts
Armorama: 13,742 posts
Posted: Friday, June 11, 2010 - 10:39 AM UTC
I have no issues bending the plastic rod to be tied down antenni. To each their own though.
majjanelson
South Carolina, United States
Joined: December 14, 2006
KitMaker: 1,355 posts
Armorama: 979 posts
Joined: December 14, 2006
KitMaker: 1,355 posts
Armorama: 979 posts
Posted: Friday, June 11, 2010 - 01:34 PM UTC
This is a 3D Shape Rendering, or Computer model. It appears to be a M1A1 with the M1A2s Commanders Sight, the Commanders remote-operated Weapon Station .50 cal has grip handles and thumb trigger like a pintle mount, the SEP UAAPU 4-bolt plate on the left side rear hull but also has the fuel fill cover on the same side, has too small jerry cans on the front of the turret bustle racks where the .50 cal ammo cans go, the Gunner's Primary Sight doghouse doors look to be too far back in the housing, it has a lip around the drivers hatch that if correct, is too tall, the shackle/tow points on the rear lower hull are too big, the rear "mud flaps" have an incorrect shape, the smoke launchers look "squashed", and other shape problems on road wheels, drive sprockets, bustle racks, etc.
BUT, it's better than I can do, for now.
redleg12
New Jersey, United States
Joined: March 11, 2007
KitMaker: 872 posts
Armorama: 831 posts
Joined: March 11, 2007
KitMaker: 872 posts
Armorama: 831 posts
Posted: Friday, June 11, 2010 - 02:12 PM UTC
OK....if you don't like plastic...I use .020 brass rod. I prefer it but to each his own!! Works fine for Singars and earlier.....
PS....the older ANCRC 12 series antenna is 3.37 inches as those were ~ 10 feet 1:1...just to cover more ground!!
Rounds Complete!!
PS....the older ANCRC 12 series antenna is 3.37 inches as those were ~ 10 feet 1:1...just to cover more ground!!
Rounds Complete!!
bill_c
Campaigns Administrator
New Jersey, United States
Joined: January 09, 2008
KitMaker: 10,553 posts
Armorama: 8,109 posts
Joined: January 09, 2008
KitMaker: 10,553 posts
Armorama: 8,109 posts
Posted: Sunday, June 13, 2010 - 06:28 AM UTC
Thanks, Gents, this really covers it!
But what is it tying them down and where is it attached?
But what is it tying them down and where is it attached?
18Bravo
Colorado, United States
Joined: January 20, 2005
KitMaker: 7,219 posts
Armorama: 6,097 posts
Joined: January 20, 2005
KitMaker: 7,219 posts
Armorama: 6,097 posts
Posted: Sunday, June 13, 2010 - 06:42 AM UTC
Good question.
Here are the tie downs in their stowed positions when the antennae are up. You can also see what is used for the tie down:
Personally, I don't mind laying out the coin for carbon fiber. It doesn't break like plastic, nor can it get a permanent kink like brass.
Here are the tie downs in their stowed positions when the antennae are up. You can also see what is used for the tie down:
Personally, I don't mind laying out the coin for carbon fiber. It doesn't break like plastic, nor can it get a permanent kink like brass.
bill_c
Campaigns Administrator
New Jersey, United States
Joined: January 09, 2008
KitMaker: 10,553 posts
Armorama: 8,109 posts
Joined: January 09, 2008
KitMaker: 10,553 posts
Armorama: 8,109 posts
Posted: Sunday, June 13, 2010 - 07:00 AM UTC
Quoted Text
Personally, I don't mind laying out the coin for carbon fiber.
Short of taking apart one of my son's composite hockey sticks, where does one get carbon fiber?
stufer
England - East Anglia, United Kingdom
Joined: May 25, 2003
KitMaker: 416 posts
Armorama: 342 posts
Joined: May 25, 2003
KitMaker: 416 posts
Armorama: 342 posts
Posted: Sunday, June 13, 2010 - 08:01 AM UTC
I don't know how much this set would cost to ship over the pond but Accurate Armour do these carbon fibre aerials
[url[/url] http://www.accurate-armour.com/ShowProduct.cfm?manufacturer=0&category=4&subcategory=105&product=1852
maybe as part of a bigger order to make it worthwhile? Any excuse for one of those new Jackals!!
[url[/url] http://www.accurate-armour.com/ShowProduct.cfm?manufacturer=0&category=4&subcategory=105&product=1852
maybe as part of a bigger order to make it worthwhile? Any excuse for one of those new Jackals!!
18Bravo
Colorado, United States
Joined: January 20, 2005
KitMaker: 7,219 posts
Armorama: 6,097 posts
Joined: January 20, 2005
KitMaker: 7,219 posts
Armorama: 6,097 posts
Posted: Sunday, June 13, 2010 - 08:12 AM UTC
Accurate Armour does carry it, and while I'd consider myself a good customer of theirs, I get it elsewhere. Most better hobby shops carry it. I now get mine from Tammy's Hobbies in Beaverton, OR. whenever I'm there, plus whatever else I need. You gotta love not paying sales tax.
Frenchy
Rhone, France
Joined: December 02, 2002
KitMaker: 12,719 posts
Armorama: 12,507 posts
Joined: December 02, 2002
KitMaker: 12,719 posts
Armorama: 12,507 posts
Posted: Sunday, June 13, 2010 - 08:29 AM UTC
Here's a close-up of an antenna tie down kit :
Another variant (+ teardrop antenna tip) :
HTH
Frenchy
Another variant (+ teardrop antenna tip) :
HTH
Frenchy
Posted: Sunday, June 13, 2010 - 08:46 AM UTC
Bill I cannot be sure but would fibre optic work just as well as carbon fibre.
18Bravo
Colorado, United States
Joined: January 20, 2005
KitMaker: 7,219 posts
Armorama: 6,097 posts
Joined: January 20, 2005
KitMaker: 7,219 posts
Armorama: 6,097 posts
Posted: Sunday, June 13, 2010 - 10:11 AM UTC
No, I've used fiber optic for aircraft and railroad lighting, and it's way too flexible.
Posted: Sunday, June 13, 2010 - 12:45 PM UTC
When you say too flexable Robert I don't quite follow what you mean. Is it that it has too large an arc or some other issue with the profile.