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M151A1 jeep,help please?
junkman
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Posted: Sunday, August 10, 2003 - 03:14 PM UTC
im starting on an academy M151A1 jeep and i need to know what base color the jeep should be it doesent say in the instructions it just has a section of colors for certain parts of the model,if someone could help me out ,i say thank you
Vodnik
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Posted: Sunday, August 10, 2003 - 07:42 PM UTC
I understand that you are building the Israeli Shmira version of Academy M115A1 kit?
If I'm right then unfortunately I don't know the answer to your question, but it is interesting to see that Academy made the same mistake in all versions of the M151A1 kit - in US version they also forgot about the base color...
Rgds,
Pawel
If I'm right then unfortunately I don't know the answer to your question, but it is interesting to see that Academy made the same mistake in all versions of the M151A1 kit - in US version they also forgot about the base color...
Rgds,
Pawel
beachbm2
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Posted: Sunday, August 10, 2003 - 09:16 PM UTC
I don't know about the Israeli ones, butt when we were getting them from Depot they came a Dark Green (almost the same color as the model master dark green), then the either the Unit or the Direct Support Shop painted them the local camo color.
HTH
Jeff aka beachbm2
HTH
Jeff aka beachbm2
Vodnik
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Posted: Sunday, August 10, 2003 - 09:30 PM UTC
Jeff,
Are you sure you are thinking about M151A1's? M151A1 was only produced to 1969, after that date M151A2 was introduced. I think that all M151A1 were painted originally overall olive drab. First M151A2's were originally also OD, and later (after the MERDC painting scheme was introduced) they were most likely depot painted Forest Green - this is probably the color you are referring to, as this was the base color for MERDC camouflage schemes applied on unit level.
Rgds,
Pawel
Are you sure you are thinking about M151A1's? M151A1 was only produced to 1969, after that date M151A2 was introduced. I think that all M151A1 were painted originally overall olive drab. First M151A2's were originally also OD, and later (after the MERDC painting scheme was introduced) they were most likely depot painted Forest Green - this is probably the color you are referring to, as this was the base color for MERDC camouflage schemes applied on unit level.
Rgds,
Pawel
ARMDCAV
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Posted: Monday, August 11, 2003 - 01:41 AM UTC
NO. They were dark green. From the factory they were almost a seml-gloss dark green. A little wax and they were almost black. Shiny? Oh yea stateside, shiny was in. Everything from floors and buckles to vehicles and brass. OD was a field color not a garrison color. Until 67-68 overseas units painted them OD until an order came down to paint all vehicles in hostile areas a camo scheme of dark green, earth and black. Tanks, tracks, jeeps and the Jeep wagoneer 3/4 ton for instance were already dark green so all you had to do was paint in the earth and black. Trucks however were OD so you had to use all three colors. What color is depends very much on who made it and even when it was made. I've seen cans of paint with the same stock number, same manufacture and same lot number in different shades. What this means is the color that you see, fs whatever in Berlin most likley won't be the same as you see at Ft Riley, or Long Bien, or Camp Casey. This won't be very evident unless you go to a major maintenance depot and see vehicles from many different units lined up beside each other. Yes they're all green, sorta. Even the color of a lot of WWII vehicles were more field drab then olive drab. A lot of you seem to mistake olive green for olive drab. It ain't. OG is the color of field gear, army fatigues and a Drill sargents blood. My point being that you cannot categorically say that ALL vehicles were a certain color. Unless you say that most all of them were green.
Red4
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Posted: Monday, August 11, 2003 - 02:07 AM UTC
Junkman,
Based on the fact that your question is listed under the IDF area, I am assuming you are requesting the color that the IDF vehicle would be. If that is the case, Model Master makes the color called Israeli Sinai Grey. I dont know the FS#, but it is a good match. Unless somebody knows something I dont, this is the color I would go with. HTH "Q" Still stuck in Iraq,
Based on the fact that your question is listed under the IDF area, I am assuming you are requesting the color that the IDF vehicle would be. If that is the case, Model Master makes the color called Israeli Sinai Grey. I dont know the FS#, but it is a good match. Unless somebody knows something I dont, this is the color I would go with. HTH "Q" Still stuck in Iraq,