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Posted: Sunday, July 18, 2010 - 12:13 AM UTC
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Posted: Sunday, July 18, 2010 - 06:29 AM UTC


it was a consideration that the gun mount material was far to thick ,so a temporary was knocked up ,until the correct gauge was found.So out came the vernier and the right gauge of metal (plastic) was found and cobbled together to give a better gun mount at the back.
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Posted: Sunday, July 18, 2010 - 06:33 AM UTC
Hey Vanguard,

Looking good! Is the MG mount based on a prototype? I ask because it's a real tail-gun charlie set-up, and firing forward would involve some serious gymnastics.

Tom
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Posted: Sunday, July 18, 2010 - 06:40 AM UTC
Barking digger ...Yep......cue Okdoky ....if you would like to upload your picture again
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Posted: Sunday, July 18, 2010 - 07:12 AM UTC
Barking digger having had another look ,there is still the tail gate to be fitted ,this stays permanently down and provides a platform for any forward facing firing.
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Posted: Sunday, July 18, 2010 - 07:32 AM UTC

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Barking digger ...Yep......cue Okdoky ....if you would like to upload your picture again



Hi there mate. Glad to see your combination coming together and looking good.

This is a set of pics that I collected when looking for reference on some Landrover detailing. If I remember right it was from an E-bay advert for selling this one.







I can't vouch for the authenticity of the mounts etc as this might well have been a proper fabrication by a REME workshop for a purpose or simply reconstructed by the owner based on a detail used in a particular unit somewhere.



Just as a wee bit extra here are a couple of pics of GPMG simply supported on the canvas which shows that any unit has the capability to boost their convoy protection even for rear guard units not supplied with up-armoured vehicles.





I am sure someone like Frenchy will have access to other pics of units that have done other versions to upgun their vehicles as basic field modifications.

Following this

Nige

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Posted: Sunday, July 18, 2010 - 07:38 AM UTC
I meant to say to you to remember the thicker Anti Roll Bar and frame behind the driver and between the first two canvas supports.

This was on the older and newer landrovers.

All the best

Nige
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Posted: Sunday, July 18, 2010 - 07:51 AM UTC

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I am sure someone like Frenchy will have access to other pics of units that have done other versions to upgun their vehicles as basic field modifications.



Hi Nige

You mean stuff like this ?

Aussie Landies in Vietnam




The mount in the second picture appears to come from a Bell Huey chopper ..

Frenchy
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Posted: Sunday, July 18, 2010 - 08:07 AM UTC
Hello i really like your model,but please be careful,the picture you have included is a civilian land rover made to look military by adding bits on,while the gun mount looks interesting a 20 burst with the gpmg woul in realality probably snap it.
kind regards
terry
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Posted: Sunday, July 18, 2010 - 08:07 AM UTC
You never cease to amaze me Frenchy !!!!!

Tee hee

On que as usual and nice pics too..

Nige
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Posted: Sunday, July 18, 2010 - 09:17 AM UTC
oh oh
options:
1 check out the authentisity of the pic
2 only issue 19 rounds
3 pretend its plastic and not real
4 hope no one sees it
5 scrap it and concentrate on something else
6 pretend im modeling the fake one
7 open to offers
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Posted: Monday, July 19, 2010 - 12:52 AM UTC
ok ive looked at manyy pics today of gun mounts and gpmg videos and im not so sure firing one would rip the mounting out so im going to leave it for now and move ahead.
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Posted: Monday, July 19, 2010 - 01:05 AM UTC

Ok there really is a lot to get through so some things may be delayed whilst I concentrate on other details.
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Posted: Monday, July 19, 2010 - 01:44 AM UTC
Hi
Nice work so far, I really like the trailer, who makes it, or did you scratch it?

Can't comment as to the authenticity of the photos you have based the build on. , the second set are from an 'at home'/open day event, I'd consider the canvas mount a bit 'optimistic'

It looks like your jimpy mount is fouling the towhook, and by extension the tailgate.

The rolled canvas looks a bit chunky, try thin tissue or old clean hanky.
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Posted: Monday, July 19, 2010 - 02:13 AM UTC
hi there
the trailer is AA.
The actual tow clip is further down on the tow plate.And the tail gate opens out on hinges making it stand off the upright.
Tha tarp is one sheet of toilet paper(soft soft soft) soaked in wood glue and I feel its fine.And might be decieving as its white at mo.
At mo must press on wit the build and other matters
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Posted: Monday, July 19, 2010 - 08:34 AM UTC
hello sir,still liking your build its your modeland you can do as you wish,i spent 10 years in the forces with land rovers as my main bit of kit.
the land rover in the pic is a civi 12 volt model.
rear xmember is angled,military is box section. windows civillian straight military one are angled.no radio box in the back to connect the 352 clansmans,only one fuel tank.
i really like you vehicle and the metal work.

kind regards
terry
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Posted: Monday, July 19, 2010 - 11:44 AM UTC
Sounds like the photos Okdoky posted might be a civvie vehicle tricked-out for the military collector market? Either way you're modelling from a photo so can't get more authentic than that! You just have to accept the prototype might not be what it seemed...

Still, it's a cracking model, and I can't wait to see it develop!

Tom
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Posted: Monday, July 19, 2010 - 08:54 PM UTC
Well yes Gentlemen I see your points of view.
However for the mo I cant fined any real photos of such and its taking up time .

So Im goimg to press ahead for now and lets just say its plastic fantastic.
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Posted: Monday, July 19, 2010 - 09:27 PM UTC

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I am sure someone like Frenchy will have access to other pics of units that have done other versions to upgun their vehicles as basic field modifications.



Hi Nige

You mean stuff like this ?

Aussie Landies in Vietnam




The mount in the second picture appears to come from a Bell Huey chopper ..

Frenchy



Both of them are RAAF Airfield Defence Guard landies. The twin M-60 mounts were the same as the door mounts on the Bushranger Helicopters. Later in the war, and post vietnam, the slick door gun mounts were used until the Mag-58 replaced the M-60.

I am currently building that Landrover with the twin 60's. Will post pics soon.

Great build too BTW! Looking good!
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Posted: Monday, July 19, 2010 - 11:23 PM UTC

I'll tell what that new Vallejo grey primer is a wonderfull thing.
Let it all dry and then tweek a few things for another coat.
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Posted: Monday, July 19, 2010 - 11:30 PM UTC

Possibly another controversial mod but hey ho.
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Posted: Monday, July 19, 2010 - 11:40 PM UTC
looking good Phonetic! Can't wait to see this finished.

Who cares about the mod? It's your model, so build it how you like. Who can accurately say, for 100%, that the rovers did not have that mod?
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Posted: Monday, July 19, 2010 - 11:48 PM UTC
The aspect of taking photos of your model, leads to a scrutiny of the mistakes and the work stil required.
The join between the cab and the back section was naughty ,theres only the thin section of the door and the walls to glue together ,may have to add some bracing here somehow.
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Posted: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 - 12:30 AM UTC

One other mod that i did do was to change the hand of the steering to rhd .On the previous landrover 1 I hacked the dash to pieces and reasembled it rhd.
On this on I have only cut of the instrument panel and stuck on the right along with the steering wheel assembly.
Obviously a bit of tidying to do here.
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