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Posted: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 - 12:04 PM UTC
today in school i got really bored so i drew up a diorama plan in class. i thought really hard on it and decided it would be an armor diorama. i'm using a panzerIV the long barreled one and what i wanted to have was a road going down the middle of the base a destroyed building one the corner where the road will eventually turn. well the Panzer will be near the builing right outside the broken window. there will be however a US bazooka man lurking from beneath the window waiting to strike. i have already made the destroyed builing with the brick wall sheet from custom dioramics. i also thought of adding a destroyed panzer III covered in rubble. for this i thought i'd cut the panzer in half just having the front of the hulls and the whole turret. then i'd have where the rest of the tank should be against a wall of miliputty and covered with rubble.

does anyone have any ideas or suggestions or criticisms to help me?? i know that for the cobble stone street i'm most likely going to use this tip http://www.docdio.com/page/cobblestones.htm well i look forward to hearing what your have to say about this idea of mine. untill then..
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Posted: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 - 02:07 PM UTC
Sounds like a cool dio. You havent stated exactly what you want help with. For the buildings and indeed the cobblestoned road, you can cast flat panels of grout and then scribe. Or make the walls out of 5mm cork cut into actual bricks and placed like brick work and they are definately the way to go for loose bricks. (see the work of carlos elias or adam avukick on here) The size for the bricks are 6mm x 2mm.
click here for an example of Carlosīs work!
Ask more defined questions for help on whatever you need. There will be plenty offers of help and tips!
Pnzr-Cmdr
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Posted: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 - 02:40 PM UTC
well i was wondering what i should put on the inside of the building/house like rubble, a ruined table maybe a carpet or a portrait of someone. is the ruined panzer III a good idea? like do you know what i mean but cutting it down? i have already started on the building so far it's two peices, two broken brick wall's one has a window cut out. covered sides with POP except for tops to make it look like the plaster came off. thinking if i should make it have a ruined upper floor... it's 4.5 inches tall so i'm not sure. if you could give me ideas on how to make a ruined second floor or ruined roof it would be much appreciated. hopefully i can get some in work progress on it up here soon.
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Posted: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 - 02:41 PM UTC
by the tops i meant edges like in Faust's diorama: Distraction. i don't know what i meant by tops...
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Posted: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 - 03:16 PM UTC
Before you put a bazooka (or any rocket powered device) inside anything, consider the backblast. You'll want to be sure there's a safe distance otherwise the guy might do some real damage to himself and his teammate.
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Posted: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 - 04:01 PM UTC

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today in school i got really bored so i drew up a diorama plan in class. i thought really hard on it and decided it would be an armor diorama. i'm using a panzerIV the long barreled one and what i wanted to have was a road going down the middle of the base a destroyed building one the corner where the road will eventually turn. well the Panzer will be near the builing right outside the broken window. there will be however a US bazooka man lurking from beneath the window waiting to strike. i have already made the destroyed builing with the brick wall sheet from custom dioramics. i also thought of adding a destroyed panzer III covered in rubble. for this i thought i'd cut the panzer in half just having the front of the hulls and the whole turret. then i'd have where the rest of the tank should be against a wall of miliputty and covered with rubble.

does anyone have any ideas or suggestions or criticisms to help me?? i know that for the cobble stone street i'm most likely going to use this tip http://www.docdio.com/page/cobblestones.htm well i look forward to hearing what your have to say about this idea of mine. untill then..



Well since this is your first Diorama I would only suggest that you use the KISS principle(Keep It Simple Stupid) No offence meant just what we called it in the service. But if this is your first one try to research your subject and keep it a simple as you can. Them more of them you do the better and more complicated you can get with them.
HTH
Jeff AKA beachbm2
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Posted: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 - 11:56 PM UTC
PNZR-CMDR

A Second floor is actually not that hard to make. Take some nice sized Balsa Beams and some nice sized balsa planks Now make with the Balsa beams first some support beams for the planks and start gleuing the planks (all is cut to size more or less) on it in a logic way so that the beams are supporting the planks and not like laying them in the same direction as the beams as some planks will be unsoported and thereby floating in the air. Then comes the point where you want to show damage by bombing etcetera. Break off all your beams at the edges and do the same with your planks (of course on the places where you want it to be damaged.) When everything is fully cured and prepared you can glue it in your house at a normal height for a second floor and give it some paint or washes and voila there is your second floor

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Posted: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 - 12:15 AM UTC
You have a bunch of good points in previous posts to consider
I see Faust has given a great explanation creating a second floor. To add some pictures to his description check out this digital diamond
https://armorama.kitmaker.net//features/112

A comment about 'tops' - the best way to make plaster look broken is to 'break it' mold some extra on and then chip it off by lightly tapping it with a hammer or the back of a knife handle or something.
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Posted: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 - 08:18 AM UTC
thanks for the help guys. i'm about to map out the cobblestone street
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