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jimbrae
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Posted: Thursday, August 19, 2010 - 10:34 PM UTC
Here''s an update on a Report we ran a few days ago with more images of another useful Track Set from AFV Club - AF35179 - German 40cm steel track. Images of the Set can be seen:

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If you have comments or questions please post them here.

Thanks!

padawan_82
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Posted: Thursday, August 19, 2010 - 11:11 PM UTC
these look nice Jim, i just have to questions about them:
1 shouldn't they have hollow guide horns? i ask this because i've seen Tristars late version tracks and they have hollow guide horns.
2 would these tracks be suitable for a Panzer IV ausf D?
thanks again for the heads up on these Ant.
milvehfan
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Posted: Saturday, August 21, 2010 - 04:42 AM UTC
Goods News . I would love to find suitable Realistic / Easier to assemble tracks form my Tamiya Panzer III,L and for my Dragon, Panzer IV,G. if these would work for those kits. milvehfan
wbill76
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Posted: Saturday, August 21, 2010 - 05:09 AM UTC

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these look nice Jim, i just have to questions about them:
1 shouldn't they have hollow guide horns? i ask this because i've seen Tristars late version tracks and they have hollow guide horns.
2 would these tracks be suitable for a Panzer IV ausf D?
thanks again for the heads up on these Ant.



Ant,

There are many different types of Pz III/IV 40cm tracks that were used. The design that AFV Club is representing here are correct as type that was used after (but also parallel due to first-in-first-out depot supply/manufacture rules) the standard 40cm with open guide horns. The whole "early", "mid", or "late" types of designations are modeler-conventions and don't apply in the usual sense here for these types of tracks. Not uncommon to see reference photos of vehicles in the same unit (or even the same vehicle!) with both open and solid guide-horn tracks in use, particulalry when it comes to spare runs on the vehicles vs. the full runs in use. They were interchangeable. The solid guide horns started to appear in 1943 as a frame of reference so that should answer your 2nd question around using them on a IV-D as highly unlikely. HTH!
padawan_82
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Posted: Saturday, August 21, 2010 - 09:44 PM UTC
thanks Bill i'll be definately ordering a set of these now to use on my rebuilt Pz IV D
Hisham
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Posted: Saturday, August 21, 2010 - 09:56 PM UTC
I don't really do WW II German anymore, but I still have an old Tristar Pz IV Ausf C in my stash which I have to build sometime. Are these tracks appropriate for it?

Hisham
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Posted: Saturday, August 21, 2010 - 10:02 PM UTC

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I don't really do WW II German anymore, but I still have an old Tristar Pz IV Ausf C in my stash which I have to build sometime. Are these tracks appropriate for it?


If they're too late for the Ausf.D, they're certainly too late for the Ausf.C.
Plasticbattle
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Posted: Saturday, August 21, 2010 - 10:04 PM UTC

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I don't really do WW II German anymore, but I still have an old Tristar Pz IV Ausf C in my stash which I have to build sometime. Are these tracks appropriate for it?Hisham


No, not really. As Bill wrote in a previous post "The solid guide horns started to appear in 1943 as a frame of reference so that should answer your 2nd question around using them on a IV-D as highly unlikely", so if they don´t work for a D, they´re not going to work for a C either. Tristar have indy links (although not workable) that are quite nice and go together well ... and have the proper hollow teeth ... already in the box.
Hisham
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Posted: Saturday, August 21, 2010 - 10:55 PM UTC
Thanks for your help, guys! Like they sometimes say in my country "Ignorance is bliss"

Frank.. I know that the Tristar tracks are very good, it's just that I'm not vey good at working with regular link tracks which is why I usually look for workable tracks.. or clickable like Masterclub's tracks.

Hisham
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Posted: Saturday, August 28, 2010 - 06:28 AM UTC

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I don't really do WW II German anymore, but I still have an old Tristar Pz IV Ausf C in my stash which I have to build sometime. Are these tracks appropriate for it?

Hisham


No, they are too wide. These are 40 cm tracks suitable for 1943 onward. The C used the 38 cm wide tracks (36 cm not counting the track pins), and as originally equipped, these had the low center guide teeth (the Tristar kit includes the taller center guides introduced for the Ausf. D, though of course, these were available as replacements for C models from 1940 on). Early tanks could be rebuilt with a spacer ring on the drive sprockets to use the wider track, but that probably wasn't done on the C models, which had dangerously thin armor, and were withdrawn pretty early.
Northern_Lad
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Posted: Saturday, December 30, 2017 - 08:07 PM UTC
Would these be the correct tracks for a panzer iv F2? Im considering buying the Italeri F1/F2/G and will upgrade it with AM tracks...
AgentG
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Posted: Saturday, December 30, 2017 - 09:54 PM UTC
Never say never but............

These would have appeared with the Pz IV G and been on most Pz IV H's. The F2 predates 1943 by about a year.

Northern_Lad
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Posted: Sunday, December 31, 2017 - 04:31 AM UTC
Thanks Agent G. I'll look elsewhere then.
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