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Armor and ground forces of the Axis forces during World War II.
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Flakpanzer IV Ostwind
Venom
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Alessandria, Italy
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Posted: Sunday, August 17, 2003 - 07:03 PM UTC
Hi guys
I bought a Flakpanzer IV Ostwind 1st series of Italeri and at the first look It's very nice.
Before start the costruction I want to know where he has operated , in which battalion platoon gruppe or something like these
Someone know something?
Tanks a lot
Capt-Caveman
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Posted: Monday, August 18, 2003 - 05:22 AM UTC
they were used at the end of the war and photos are very rare of them in action
the were used in and around germany east and west
there was suposed to be some serving alongside Wirblewinds in the Ardennes
Venom
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Posted: Monday, August 18, 2003 - 06:25 AM UTC
thanks capt-caveman
I see your are new on this site so welcome on Armorama....for everythings you can use the forum
Regards
Capt-Caveman
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Posted: Tuesday, August 19, 2003 - 12:44 PM UTC
thank you Venom
good luck on your Ostwind
MLD
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Posted: Tuesday, August 19, 2003 - 01:05 PM UTC
The Italeri 1/35th kit is of the prototype, from what I remember. The author of one actually spoke to the developer.
There were two very good articles in MMiR and one in the Ampersand Axis and Allies vol 1 -?-

Lemme see what I can dig up.

mike
Jacques
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Posted: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 - 09:19 AM UTC
The Italeri kit is of the "soft-Steel_ prototype...it was shown to Hitler and others as a preproduction mock-up...not the real deal. Tony Greenland built a accurate production vehicle that is featured in a older issue of MMiR. IIRC it has templates to build the correct turret.
Hawkeye
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Posted: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 - 09:25 AM UTC
Nuts and Bolts Vol 13 has some very good pics and info about the Ostwind. I can't scan them but if there is any tech info you need let me know and i will try and see if it is in there.

Later
Hawkeye
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Posted: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 - 09:33 AM UTC
Thanks guys, so hawkeye can you tell me where ostwind has fought? in which company or truppe?
Thanks a lot
regards
Hawkeye
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Wales, United Kingdom
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Posted: Thursday, August 21, 2003 - 06:16 AM UTC
Hey Venom,this is all that it says in Nuts and Bolts concerning the deployment of the Ostwind.

"Due to the conditions at the war's end exact production figures for the Ostwind are no longer known. Heereswaffenamt/Wa I Ru reported seven vehicles as combat ready in March 1945. Count Von Seherr-Thoss remembers 40 vehicles as finished. Also it is not known which unit recieved those vehicles. One can assume that at least a few were on active duty on the eastern Front in the area of Teplitz-Schonau"

I know this is not a lot of use, but it does beg the question, "What untis were deployed in the above area." If you could find that out, that would answer your question. I would suggest, from reading Nuts and Bolts that is a would either be a Stug unit or a Panzer Division,possible a Waffen-SS Panzer Division, but there is no evidence as to which one.

Sorry i cannot clarify more

Regards from the Swamp
Hawkeye
MadMax
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Posted: Thursday, August 21, 2003 - 06:19 AM UTC
apropos flak-tanks, does anybody know if a model of a kugelblitz exists?
Hawkeye
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Posted: Thursday, August 21, 2003 - 06:26 AM UTC
Hey Mad Max,

DML did do one a few years back, and i have seen one or two for sale at model shows. But i think it is out of prodution now. Maybe they will release it again soon with all the "new" kits they have been doing.

Regards From The Swamp
Hawkeye
MadMax
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Posted: Thursday, August 21, 2003 - 06:29 AM UTC
ok thx
AJLaFleche
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Posted: Thursday, August 21, 2003 - 07:52 AM UTC
Ditto on DML/Dragon, though you might find one in a goodhobby shop. Squadron currently lists a Verlinden 1/35 turret conversion for under $18. I guess you supply the chassis.
MadMax
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Posted: Thursday, August 21, 2003 - 10:57 AM UTC
sorry but i dont like this expensive aftermarket products
Jacques
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Posted: Thursday, August 21, 2003 - 12:44 PM UTC
Ok, here is the deal,

for the Kugelblitz, DML did 2 kits...6136 was the initial kit...6140 was the retooling...I am not sure what changed between the two kits, but that is the story. And kit 6140 is OOP for the moment.

DML also did the Flakpanzer V Koelian kit 9022 and it too is OOP for the moment.
Hip_Priest
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Posted: Thursday, August 21, 2003 - 10:08 PM UTC
Venom

FWIW I too am about the Ostwind (Italeri) once I get back off my hols. I'll be keeping en eye on this post in the meantime though.

Best of luck with the build.

David
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