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T-54 conversion
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Posted: Saturday, October 16, 2010 - 08:25 AM UTC
Hey all,

Looking for a complete T-54 conversion including the road wheels, anyone make such a set?

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Posted: Saturday, October 16, 2010 - 09:09 AM UTC
Tank Workshop makes one: -- Click --

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Posted: Saturday, October 16, 2010 - 10:59 AM UTC

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Tank Workshop makes one: -- Click --



Very nice, thanks!

Question, does the T-54 barrel have the suppressor like the T-55. I thought that I saw pics of a 54 with no suppressor at all?



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Posted: Saturday, October 16, 2010 - 11:11 AM UTC
A 100MM gun would be a big gun to suppress. It is a bore evacuator. Early T54s did not have it. Starting with the T54B the main gun had one.
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Posted: Saturday, October 16, 2010 - 11:26 AM UTC

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A 100MM gun would be a big gun to suppress. It is a bore evacuator. Early T54s did not have it. Starting with the T54B the main gun had one.


Kool, Ya brain fart there LOL.

I'm planning to build an initial release T-54 based on the Tamiya T-55 kit.

Is there an early barrel available?

Thanks a bunch!


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Posted: Saturday, October 16, 2010 - 11:31 AM UTC
You also need to apply some details here and there,don't forget the wading rail fording kit.There are walkaround at primeportal,let me know if you need to know other thing,maybe I can help.
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http://www.primeportal.net/tanks/adam_vukich/t-54_walk.htm

http://www.primeportal.net/tanks/yuri_pasholok/t-54b/


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Posted: Sunday, October 17, 2010 - 12:00 AM UTC
Modelpoint makes an early barel, good luck getting it
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Posted: Sunday, October 17, 2010 - 03:38 AM UTC
Rick,
Which version of the T-54 do you want to build? If its an intial version you'll need alot of scratch building. The very early ones had a different turret, fuel cells (box type - Modelpoint USED to have them.), zip boxes, Barrels are avail. from several AM manufacturers. I think Jay @ Tankworkshop still has some left! You'll have to scratch the engine deck as no one makes a correct set up. The Panzershop stuff was ok (if you can find it). AEF designs used to make some stuff for the Esci T-55s but everyone knows the story. I actually have his T54 deck and its too narrow for the Tamiya kit.
T54 and T55s went through a number of upgrades during their service lives. So you could model an older variant with some newer features like wheels, fuel cells, gun, sight etc....

HTH
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Posted: Sunday, October 17, 2010 - 03:52 AM UTC
Thanks for the info Chris,

I would like to build the earliest version that I can, within reason of course LOL.

How early is the engine deck from Tankworkshop? I'm thinking this set with an early barrel and maybe tose earl fuel cells if I can find them.


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Posted: Sunday, October 17, 2010 - 04:37 AM UTC
The early T-54 model 49m Turret and barrel are available from Airedale castings. The Master built by myself....Also the early Spiderweb wheels....
All the stuff we have done is documented on Previous posts on Missing Lynx.
We are working on releasing the T-54 model 49m as a full conversion....as soon as i have finished building the masters. I also have the engine deck with oval radiator covers in the works..

Andy
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Posted: Sunday, October 17, 2010 - 05:08 AM UTC
Andy,Thats great news! I have always thought that AM choices for the excellent Tamiya T55 kit was lacking - especially early stuff. I have heard that the Model point T54 upgraded turret was nice also.

Chris
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Posted: Sunday, October 17, 2010 - 05:30 AM UTC
Unfortunately I can"t saw T-54 set on Airedale castings site.
http://www.airedalecastings.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/index.html
when I can see the images of this set?
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Posted: Sunday, October 17, 2010 - 07:12 AM UTC
I think the one that I want to build is the T-54 Model 1951, also called T-54-3 according to Cookie Sewell's review here.

I also looked on Airdales site but the only thing there is the Type 69. That ones for another day LOL.


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Posted: Sunday, October 17, 2010 - 09:01 AM UTC
Hi

Aplogies, seems Graham hasnt uploaded any images of the turret...Think maybe he is waiting for rest of partsfrom me before he does...But i know he
definately has turrets ready for sale...

Here are a few images of the turret












iF you drop Graham an e-mail i am sure he will help you out

Cheers
Andy



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Posted: Sunday, October 17, 2010 - 09:12 AM UTC
Thanks Andy!

Ya Graham shot me an e-mail a few minutes ago LOL.

Now is this good for a 1951 version? Can use this combined with the Tank Workshop set?


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Posted: Sunday, October 17, 2010 - 10:06 AM UTC

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I think the one that I want to build is the T-54 Model 1951, also called T-54-3


To quote from Cookie


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T-54 Model 1951, also called T-54-3; new totally hemispherical turret with no bustle and no overhang; new gunner's sight and other modifications. First mass production variant of the tank



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Now is this good for a 1951 version?


Well...no.

Also Andy's turret is a rebuilt 1949 turret with later upgrades not an original built turret. It has the later gunner's sight and later barrel with counter weight. If you can find the Modelpoint 1949 turret it is an original built version. Of course you may have a better chance of winning the lottery than finding that turret. Saying you want to build a T54 is like saying you want to build an early Sherman. A very large can of worms.
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Posted: Sunday, October 17, 2010 - 10:38 AM UTC

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I think the one that I want to build is the T-54 Model 1951, also called T-54-3


To quote from Cookie


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T-54 Model 1951, also called T-54-3; new totally hemispherical turret with no bustle and no overhang; new gunner's sight and other modifications. First mass production variant of the tank



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Now is this good for a 1951 version?


Well...no.

Also Andy's turret is a rebuilt 1949 turret with later upgrades not an original built turret. It has the later gunner's sight and later barrel with counter weight. If you can find the Modelpoint 1949 turret it is an original built version. Of course you may have a better chance of winning the lottery than finding that turret. Saying you want to build a T54 is like saying you want to build an early Sherman. A very large can of worms.


Oh great LOL!!!


Thanks for the info. I think that going with the 1951 model might be my best course of action.


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Posted: Sunday, October 17, 2010 - 10:45 AM UTC
The easiest way is do a T54B and use Tank Workshop's conversion. It has the correct engine deck for it and the fiddly bits that go on the turret. Now that doesn't quite get you out of the woods. There are things like the different weld on the front slope and different finial drives. Those are fairly easy to do, if you know what you need to do.
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Posted: Sunday, October 17, 2010 - 10:56 AM UTC

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The easiest way is do a T54B and use Tank Workshop's conversion. It has the correct engine deck for it and the fiddly bits that go on the turret. Now that doesn't quite get you out of the woods. There are things like the different weld on the front slope and different finial drives. Those are fairly easy to do, if you know what you need to do.


I think the focus of the build will be the use of the barrel without the bore evacuator, so it looks like i'm waiting for Graham to release the complete kit


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Posted: Sunday, October 17, 2010 - 11:32 AM UTC
Well it is not quite that easy. There were 3 types of barrels used, 2 types of sighting systems used and they are inter related. Like I said the 1949 turret has the modified sighting system and the second type barrel with counter weight. The TWS conversion is for a T54B with the third type of barrel and like Andy's turret, the later sighting system I think what you were wanting to do was something along these lines



TWS kind of gets you there but you would need to convert their engine deck and come up with the 100MM barrel without bore evacuator or counter weight. It is not really that hard to do, it's the same gun as in the SU100 and barrels for that are easy to find. You also need to change out the gunner's sight on the roof for one of the earlier style periscopes as is on the right side of the turret roof. Here is the the engine deck and turret.





Like I said, that is just to start with. There are things that neither conversion addresses.
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Posted: Sunday, October 17, 2010 - 12:59 PM UTC
Very good info, thanks a bunch.

Could I use any parts from Trumpeters old Type 1951 kit?




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Posted: Monday, October 18, 2010 - 01:20 AM UTC

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The early T-54 model 49m Turret and barrel are available from Airedale castings. The Master built by myself....Also the early Spiderweb wheels....
All the stuff we have done is documented on Previous posts on Missing Lynx.
We are working on releasing the T-54 model 49m as a full conversion....as soon as i have finished building the masters. I also have the engine deck with oval radiator covers in the works..

Andy


Hey Andy,

Any timeline for when these parts will become available?


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Posted: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 - 09:13 AM UTC

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Hi
Aplogies, seems Graham hasnt uploaded any images of the turret
Here are a few images of the turret
Cheers
Andy


As I see it is the T-54-2 (1949) turret upgraded to the T-54B level.
Hope I can finally see the castings of spider wheels and early ilder.
The best choise as I know make master on URALVAGONZAVOD T-54/55 book drawings.
By the way ...Modelpoint T-54-2 (1949) turret is not true and accurate. It has been discussed at Russian model forums.
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Posted: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 - 04:56 PM UTC

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Modelpoint T-54-2 (1949) turret is not true and accurate. It has been discussed at Russian model forums.


Hi Taras,
I have this turret in my future projects stash.
Could you please recommend the best Russian armor forums to search.
thanks,
James
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Posted: Wednesday, November 03, 2010 - 03:33 AM UTC
Unfortunately James I found just this link
other were missed.
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