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Schwimmwagen: what is this?
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Posted: Sunday, October 17, 2010 - 05:41 AM UTC
Looking in my manual of the Eduard detail set for the Italeri Schwimmwagen in 1/35, I find a awkward instruction. Looking at the photograph this part is not a straight 9mm piece of rod as the Eduard manual says, but something else. Not straight at all at least. Can anybody tell me what it is? Are there better pictures of it around? This is as close as I can get.

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Posted: Sunday, October 17, 2010 - 06:02 AM UTC

Can't help on the part, but here's the image.
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Posted: Sunday, October 17, 2010 - 06:25 AM UTC
looks like a winch of some sort , maybe to pull up the propeller ???
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Posted: Sunday, October 17, 2010 - 07:33 AM UTC
Looks like a MG gun mount to me, similar to the one on the front (on the passenger side) :

Here a close up of the mount base :



from this walkaround http://svsm.org/gallery/Schwimmwagen?page=1

HTH

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Posted: Sunday, October 17, 2010 - 07:35 AM UTC
I'm looking at some of my pictures and think it's part of the exhaust?


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Posted: Sunday, October 17, 2010 - 07:39 AM UTC
It's a second MG post.
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Posted: Sunday, October 17, 2010 - 07:57 AM UTC
Hi Frenchy!

You are promoted to chief searcher on Armorama! I have looked on the internet too, but I didn't find these pictures. Thanks!
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Posted: Sunday, October 17, 2010 - 07:59 AM UTC
Hi Roy!

It seems to be an MG post indeed. But the top construction on my photograph is quite different then on the pictures or Frenchy. It seems both are valid, but what is common?
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Posted: Sunday, October 17, 2010 - 08:01 AM UTC
Hi Dave,

How did you manage to show the photo? I uploaded the photo to the 'my photo' section and copied the link into my topic. What did I do wrong?
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Posted: Sunday, October 17, 2010 - 08:04 AM UTC
Looks like the post and bracket, notice the tripod also in Frenchy's photo.
I think your photo is showing the same type of mount, except yours has the actual swivel for the MG attached as the front one does, not just the post. You can make out the tripod legs, etc in your photo.
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Posted: Sunday, October 17, 2010 - 08:31 AM UTC

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Hi Frenchy! You are promoted to chief searcher on Armorama!

Frenchy has already received a Hero of The Hobby with oak leaf clusters, swords and diamonds, LOL!

I've never seen him stumped yet.
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That's a poisonous gift Bill.... Now I must keep up this reputation



HTH

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Posted: Sunday, October 17, 2010 - 08:59 AM UTC
Great answer and good to know!


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Posted: Sunday, October 17, 2010 - 09:15 AM UTC
I think it's a cup holder for the gunner.
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Posted: Sunday, October 17, 2010 - 09:45 PM UTC

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I think it's a cup holder for the gunner.


And the space on the left and right side of the car is the ashtray
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Posted: Sunday, October 17, 2010 - 10:01 PM UTC

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Looks like the post and bracket, notice the tripod also in Frenchy's photo.
I think your photo is showing the same type of mount, except yours has the actual swivel for the MG attached as the front one does, not just the post. You can make out the tripod legs, etc in your photo.


Hi Dave,

Do you know what the purpose of this tripod is? It could be a nice feature to add to the car?
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Posted: Sunday, October 17, 2010 - 10:55 PM UTC
Hi Jan-Kees

The tripod appears to be the one (minus the swivel) used with the MG 34/MG 42 in the "Anti Aircraft" role :




HTH

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Posted: Monday, October 18, 2010 - 01:37 AM UTC
Hi Frenchy,

Seems to be a nice feature this tripod to scratchbuild onto the model. Do you have any idea on the dimensions (height of the poles)?
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Posted: Monday, October 18, 2010 - 02:52 AM UTC

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Do you have any idea on the dimensions (height of the poles)?


Got no dimensions for you, but maybe you could "guesstimate" the length using this picture (from Flickr) and your Schwimmwagen :


Full-size

You can find close-ups of tripods variants here : http://www.wehrmacht-awards.com/forums/showthread.php?t=381177

HTH

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Posted: Monday, October 18, 2010 - 04:11 AM UTC
Thank you Frenchy! It's a big help! Nice pictures of a tripod anyway.
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Posted: Monday, October 18, 2010 - 04:14 AM UTC

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Oh dear how awful ! ! ! !
I'll be a ghost and some can not read what I write?
Not understand my language?
It will be another problem?
This is the 2nd thread in which the same thing happens to me today!.
A politically correct greeting.

JC.

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Hi Juan,

With building onto the model I mean, as Frenchy understood perfectly, put it onto the model as the picture he provided shows.
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Posted: Monday, October 18, 2010 - 05:06 AM UTC
Hi Juan

I think part of the problem is it appears you are possibly using some form of translation software for your posting on Armorama. Certainly sometimes it can become difficult to understand what you are saying or meaning.

If you are using software maybe try this. Take one of your posts and translate it into English. Now take that translation and ask the software to translate it into your language. Compare what the software translated back to what you originally said. Is it the same? You can get very strange results sometimes.

regards

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