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what would camo british army wear in urban?
stansmith
England - North West, United Kingdom
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Posted: Thursday, October 21, 2010 - 07:35 AM UTC
could someone please tell me for my diorama's sake, what camo would the british armed forces wear in a modern urban enviroment please? cheers
colin-rlc
Northern Ireland, United Kingdom
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Posted: Thursday, October 21, 2010 - 12:16 PM UTC
If in Afghanistan, the new Multi terrain pattern cam by Crye Industries. The usual temperate (green) dpm is still being worn by those not yet deploying on ops.Hope this helps.
sapper159
England - South East, United Kingdom
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Posted: Friday, October 22, 2010 - 11:23 PM UTC
Apart from best dress, green tankie overalls, flight suits (overalls and flight suits are also issued in camouflage though), hospital greens,..ie job specific clothing, British troops are, generally, only issued with camouflaged uniforms.
To my knowledge the army has never had 'urban' camouflage as, in theory, dpm is good for all settings as its multi blend of colours disrupts the shape and the inclusion of black adds to the shadow effect. When you add on webbing and weapons the shape is broken up even more.
Admittedly the temperate dpm does stand out abit in a grey / terracotta red european urban daytime setting but at night / half light it works very well and then of course in the town parks and gardens there is no problems.
For many years, Lightweight works trousers ,olive green coloured, were issued (and worn on Ops in Ulster), but these were withdrawn in the late '90s. They were actually withdrawn from use in Ulster earlier because they were a polycotton mix that had a tendancy to melt rather than burn when set alight from bomb blast or petrol bomb.
There are 4 'types' of British camouflage;
White, odviously for arctic/ snowy terrains
Temperate dpm for European terrain, green terrains, jungle
Desert dpm for obviously desert terrain, some African terrains and most recently Afghanistan
Multi terrain pattern (MTP) as used now in Afghanistan and no doubt will be used in terrains were the colours are muted.
A good source of pictorical reference is the MODs own websites, you have force specific sites, news sites and a picture gallery, you may have to register but its no real problem for some verygood quality reference pics.
To my knowledge the army has never had 'urban' camouflage as, in theory, dpm is good for all settings as its multi blend of colours disrupts the shape and the inclusion of black adds to the shadow effect. When you add on webbing and weapons the shape is broken up even more.
Admittedly the temperate dpm does stand out abit in a grey / terracotta red european urban daytime setting but at night / half light it works very well and then of course in the town parks and gardens there is no problems.
For many years, Lightweight works trousers ,olive green coloured, were issued (and worn on Ops in Ulster), but these were withdrawn in the late '90s. They were actually withdrawn from use in Ulster earlier because they were a polycotton mix that had a tendancy to melt rather than burn when set alight from bomb blast or petrol bomb.
There are 4 'types' of British camouflage;
White, odviously for arctic/ snowy terrains
Temperate dpm for European terrain, green terrains, jungle
Desert dpm for obviously desert terrain, some African terrains and most recently Afghanistan
Multi terrain pattern (MTP) as used now in Afghanistan and no doubt will be used in terrains were the colours are muted.
A good source of pictorical reference is the MODs own websites, you have force specific sites, news sites and a picture gallery, you may have to register but its no real problem for some verygood quality reference pics.
gogs007
Scotland, United Kingdom
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Posted: Friday, October 22, 2010 - 11:35 PM UTC
i believe mtp is supposed to replace dpm, i think i saw that there will only be mtp and desert cammo
sapper159
England - South East, United Kingdom
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Posted: Saturday, October 23, 2010 - 10:26 PM UTC
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i believe mtp is supposed to replace dpm, i think i saw that there will only be mtp and desert cammo
to be honest, I can't say that you are wrong, but MTP is too muted in colour to work well in the European theatre of Ops or the jungles.
Just a wee fact, you may already know, British DPM is the most copied camouflaged pattern in the world, and some of it is produced legally, under licence, too!
gogs007
Scotland, United Kingdom
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Posted: Sunday, October 24, 2010 - 04:35 AM UTC
hi please see this http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8422942.stm i agree dpm works in europe and that its been copied i see the dutch do some realy good stuff, but this is supposed to mean only 2 uniforms rather than mulitiply ones, on a side note cs95 is supposed to be replaced with a new cut. All this is supposed to begin next year but we will see if it happens