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Posted: Saturday, August 23, 2003 - 03:17 AM UTC

which number is panther zim pattern? is it 4 or 2??
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Posted: Saturday, August 23, 2003 - 03:21 AM UTC
i think its 2
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Posted: Saturday, August 23, 2003 - 03:26 AM UTC
i was thinking it's 2 as well. i'll wait for more replies before i apply it.
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Posted: Saturday, August 23, 2003 - 03:31 AM UTC
its 2, I checked my old italerie panther A with zimmerit
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Posted: Saturday, August 23, 2003 - 03:45 AM UTC
awesome thanks
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Posted: Saturday, August 23, 2003 - 03:58 AM UTC
no prob, thats why we are here
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Posted: Saturday, August 23, 2003 - 04:01 AM UTC
Why not 6? I always thought that the waffle was applied to Panther A too....maybe I am wrong.
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Posted: Saturday, August 23, 2003 - 04:06 AM UTC
dunno, perhaps there were more variants, but number 2 is that which were in the italerie-kit included!
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Posted: Saturday, August 23, 2003 - 04:18 AM UTC
Hi,

if you go to the Atak site, you can find resin glue-on Zimmerit for various models... By the look of it, the pattern they have for the the Panther. They give various possibilities...among them 2, 6, 3, 9, 4 at least by the look of it...
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Posted: Saturday, August 23, 2003 - 04:39 AM UTC
I thought it could be either 2 or 4
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Posted: Saturday, August 23, 2003 - 05:11 AM UTC
Hi all
I seem to have heard somewhere that the Italeri Panther A comes with it's own zimmerit. Is this correct? and if so how good is the Kit?
TIA
Peter
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Posted: Saturday, August 23, 2003 - 05:23 AM UTC
its goog, not great, just good
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Posted: Saturday, August 23, 2003 - 05:32 AM UTC
its ok for a "normal" modell-builder like me but if u like historically right (i hope u know what i mean) than u need aftermarket products and its a bit "toylike"
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Posted: Saturday, August 23, 2003 - 05:43 AM UTC
Don't know why you didn't read this properly. It tell you exactly.
http://www.panzerworld.net/Zimmerit.htm

Thanks to panzer world!
Pnzr-Cmdr
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Posted: Saturday, August 23, 2003 - 12:46 PM UTC
yea well it doesn't really show which went on which. can 5 (cross-hatched) go on a panther A. i want to do that one. if not, i'll do the waffle stamp.
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Posted: Saturday, August 23, 2003 - 08:08 PM UTC
hmmm i would use #2
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Posted: Sunday, August 24, 2003 - 05:41 AM UTC
With all due respect for all who have answered, my advice is to go to reference materials. It seems we are making a lot of sweeping statements regarding this issue. What pattern of Zimmerit did a Panther wear is a HUGE question, you need to refine your search pattern. What Ausf. Panther are you modeling? Which theatre? Which Unit? Which firm manufactured the tank?

Please remember that Panthers were manufactured by more than one firm, and in many different places, and that hulls and turrets were also manufactured by different firms and in different places. I am leaving other more obvious modeling scenarios out of the equation such as mixed units, and tanks that had been repaired or modified.

I have limited materials on the Panther, (Squadron In action, Concord, Panther: Quest for Combat Supremacy, and Verlindens' lock on) but they all indicate differences from tank to tank and unit to unit.

My long winded point is this: Research and don't EVER apply blanket statements to Axis armor. If you are concerned with accuracy, it will bite you in the butt.

HTH,

Scott
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