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2S3 Akatsiya
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Oost-Vlaanderen, Belgium
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Posted: Thursday, November 04, 2010 - 10:10 AM UTC
hello everybody,

I haven't got much info, except the internet, about the 2S3 Akatsiya
, there must be some die hard addept here that can help me out here, I was wondering if I could use the Trumpeter 1:35 Chinese Type 83 152 mm Self Propelled Gun kit to build a Soviet version?

and is there info around, or builds of these vehicles?

thanks all
juge75
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Jasz-Nagkyun-Szolnok, Hungary
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Posted: Thursday, November 04, 2010 - 07:18 PM UTC
The Acacia 2S3 152mm self-propelled gun (and the Sa-4 Krug / Ganef 2P24 rocket launcher, and missile tracking 1S32 Pat Hand), a common basis for both the Su-100P is based on a vehicle.
The following proposition: either you build one yourself, or buy a Rocket Launcher Tank-Mania 2P24, and rebuilding it (the same chassis, the running wheels, tracks, only the upper armor is different).
Regards, Gábor.
http://mhrfweb.makett.org/MHRF/index.php?option=com_phocagallery&view=category&id=122%3A2sz3-akacija&Itemid=11&lang=hu
http://serkoff.narod.ru/photoalbum190.html
http://www.lockon.ru/index.php?scr=photos&end_pos=1042&page=2
chefchris
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Posted: Thursday, November 04, 2010 - 11:14 PM UTC
Theres nothing similiar about the 2. About the only thing in common is the gun. Different hulls, turret, driveline etc... It would be nice to have a 2s3 though......

Chris
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Kaunas, Lithuania
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Posted: Thursday, November 04, 2010 - 11:26 PM UTC
walkaround
http://www.photoka.info/2c3/index.htm
http://svsm.org/gallery/2S3-family
http://www.fotovalkirumodelism.com/page.php?page=531

scratchbuild - http://scalemodels.ru/modules/forum/viewtopic.php?t=20723&postdays=0&postorder=asc&&start=0
http://www.panzer35.ru/forum/22-1703-1
jointhepit
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Oost-Vlaanderen, Belgium
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Posted: Thursday, November 11, 2010 - 05:15 AM UTC
thanks guys for the reply, guess I'd better finish my mass of WIP first before I get bussy with this "brainchild"

thanks for the info!

juge75
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Jasz-Nagkyun-Szolnok, Hungary
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Posted: Friday, November 12, 2010 - 03:38 AM UTC
For you:
Acacia draw album.
http://www.kalasnyikov.hu/dokumentumok/152mmes_2sz3m_onj_tarack_anyagism_es_uzem_szakut_5konyv_abraalbum.pdf
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Pennsylvania, United States
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Posted: Friday, November 12, 2010 - 12:29 PM UTC
Juge75,
any chance of scanning your Shilka manual to share like this?

Sean
juge75
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Jasz-Nagkyun-Szolnok, Hungary
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Posted: Saturday, November 13, 2010 - 07:16 AM UTC
Sean, check your e-mail.
MilanX3
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Posted: Thursday, January 27, 2011 - 09:22 PM UTC
Was the Su100P also used for the 2S4 Tuylpan and 2S5 Giagsint? I have also seen it as a chassis for an artillery named Su100P and as the chassis for the prototype ZSU-37-2...any info would be welcomed!

Cheers,
Rich



Quoted Text

The Acacia 2S3 152mm self-propelled gun (and the Sa-4 Krug / Ganef 2P24 rocket launcher, and missile tracking 1S32 Pat Hand), a common basis for both the Su-100P is based on a vehicle.
The following proposition: either you build one yourself, or buy a Rocket Launcher Tank-Mania 2P24, and rebuilding it (the same chassis, the running wheels, tracks, only the upper armor is different).
Regards, Gábor.
http://mhrfweb.makett.org/MHRF/index.php?option=com_phocagallery&view=category&id=122%3A2sz3-akacija&Itemid=11&lang=hu
http://serkoff.narod.ru/photoalbum190.html
http://www.lockon.ru/index.php?scr=photos&end_pos=1042&page=2
Jacques
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Posted: Friday, January 28, 2011 - 03:42 AM UTC
SU-100SP is the anti-tank gun. Su-100P is a artillery piece (just to make things clear). Both were one-off designs that shared the same general lineage as the GM-123 chassis development (What the SA-4, 2S3 and 2S5 are built on), but they are not direct parents.

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MilanX3
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Canada
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Posted: Friday, January 28, 2011 - 06:34 AM UTC
I am trying to find information on the chassis of the Su-100P in order to create a document that shows the actual link between the different system. This will be used hopefully by model makers in order to create a Su-100P artillery, and if linked, use the chassis to easily create or make conversions of the 2S3 Akasiya kit by Balaton models to make a SA-4 Ganef, 2S4 Tulypan and 2S5 Giaysint, and maybe even the ZSU-37-2. Getting information on the one chassis would create 5 kits or more for a modeller who would want to sell them. Any information is much appreciated, especially the name of the actual chassis as its often listed as Su-100P(like the artillery piece at Kubinka) or Object 123


Quoted Text

SU-100SP is the anti-tank gun. Su-100P is a artillery piece (just to make things clear). Both were one-off designs that shared the same general lineage as the GM-123 chassis development (What the SA-4, 2S3 and 2S5 are built on), but they are not direct parents.

What are you looking to do?
MilanX3
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Posted: Friday, January 28, 2011 - 06:48 AM UTC
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:UO_pWBbk1b4J:www.orteh.com/eng/products/catalogue/books/07.php+%22Su-100P%22+100mm&cd=10&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=ca&source=www.google.ca


152mm 2S3M "Akatsiya" self-propelled howitzer based on the tracked chassis of self-propelled air defense missile system "Krug" mounted on the chassis of self-propelled artillery system SU-100P (Article 105)

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