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Posted: Friday, November 19, 2010 - 12:13 PM UTC
Building Tamiya Leopard 2 a6 and Am Detail set, Anyone can show me the knife Technique/ how to cut off some of the original detail on the Tamiya kit to put the new parts on?

Thx

Jay
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Posted: Friday, November 19, 2010 - 12:42 PM UTC
Sorry not familiar with that kit or part. I'll offer that whenever I need to be carefull cutting piecesI always use a new #11 blade. I go very slowly and sometime I even use a heated blade to mention through the sprue.
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Posted: Friday, November 19, 2010 - 12:56 PM UTC
I use a chisel blade to remove details I'm going to replace with PE.
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Posted: Friday, November 19, 2010 - 02:11 PM UTC
Are you talking about molded on parts? If so, I use a Dremel tool with a small cutting bur to remove the molded on parts. If you remove too much plastic just fill in with putty and sand smooth.
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Posted: Saturday, December 04, 2010 - 01:19 PM UTC
just got the chisel blade, getting ready....thx guys
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Posted: Saturday, December 04, 2010 - 09:30 PM UTC

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just got the chisel blade, getting ready....thx guys


Be very careful! Don't use a lot of pressure when cutting the unwanted detail off with an X-acto square-end chisel blade. If you apply very little pressure and gently rock the blade horizontally, you can eventually cut the part free without marring any surrounding detail. Work your way all the way round the detail, so you have a clean parting line, always cutting toward the center. If you use a lot of pressure, you risk a broken blade, or the plastic coming free very suddenly, with a loss of control of the knife (which may then gouge the surface or even bury itself in your other hand--I've got a scar to prove it). It takes a few minutes more, but you save lots of time you would have spent repairing the damage done by more destructive removal methods, like saws or power tools.
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Posted: Sunday, December 05, 2010 - 03:54 AM UTC
If you use the chisel blade upside down it will reduce the chance of the blade digging in.
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Posted: Sunday, December 05, 2010 - 04:10 AM UTC
i use very CAREFULLY

a tradizional razor blade



it's a very very thin blade so it's very useful to cut the detail whitout dameging-it
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Posted: Sunday, December 05, 2010 - 12:43 PM UTC

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just got the chisel blade, getting ready....thx guys


Be very careful! Don't use a lot of pressure when cutting the unwanted detail off with an X-acto square-end chisel blade. If you apply very little pressure and gently rock the blade horizontally, you can eventually cut the part free without marring any surrounding detail. Work your way all the way round the detail, so you have a clean parting line, always cutting toward the center. If you use a lot of pressure, you risk a broken blade, or the plastic coming free very suddenly, with a loss of control of the knife (which may then gouge the surface or even bury itself in your other hand--I've got a scar to prove it). It takes a few minutes more, but you save lots of time you would have spent repairing the damage done by more destructive removal methods, like saws or power tools.



THank you Gerald, I was wondering how much pressure should be used... and Darren, what you mean use it upside down? Mauro, the a tradizional razor blade looked scared to me, I might be the victim first.....before I cut off the parts...
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Posted: Sunday, December 05, 2010 - 07:24 PM UTC

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what you mean use it upside down?



Uh, flip it over.
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Posted: Monday, December 06, 2010 - 10:37 AM UTC

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Mauro, the a tradizional razor blade looked scared to me, I might be the victim first.....before I cut off the parts...



I understand
It's a pity...

Firstable razor blades are cheap

Furthermore you can cut easily the blade (with a common pair of scissor) and you can change its shape

for exemple:


...or instead:


To avoid fingers injuries I use masking tape


But anyway, as i said, i understand your fears

cheers
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Posted: Monday, December 06, 2010 - 10:56 AM UTC

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I use a chisel blade to remove details I'm going to replace with PE.



+1 on this as well. I use a micro-chisel to get rid of unwanted detail. Works for most things but there are times I need my 11 blade to do the job.

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Posted: Monday, December 06, 2010 - 11:37 AM UTC
What I ment was you should place the bevel against the model rather than the cutting face. In other words instead of holding the chisel as you would when using it on wood, you must turn it over and rest the bevel against the model. This will enable you to cut the raised plastic details off of your model without the blade trying to dig into the surface.
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Posted: Wednesday, December 08, 2010 - 06:31 AM UTC
I use a detail remover chisel from Micro Marc. The edge has rounded corners to prevent accidental gouging.
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Posted: Wednesday, December 08, 2010 - 06:39 AM UTC
Darren, that is really help when I try to remove the small parts....



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Posted: Wednesday, December 08, 2010 - 07:33 AM UTC
The real benefit of this method is it also allows for the removel of large raised detail in segments safely without having to attack it all in one go.
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Posted: Saturday, December 11, 2010 - 02:37 PM UTC
I got two scars by the chisel blade today..... but learning a lot of control of that.... Thx guys...

Just cut cut cut cut cut all day long.......
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