Hi All,
What Tamiya or Vallejo colors are recommended for painting a Pz IV H in a late war three tone scheme?
Specifically what are their paint code numbers for dark yellow, red brown and dark green?
Thanks
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Pz IV H colors
B33rw0lf
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Posted: Sunday, November 21, 2010 - 04:51 PM UTC
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Posted: Sunday, November 21, 2010 - 05:19 PM UTC
Len;
If you are going with the Tamiya acrylics (which are the paints I use)- that Pz. IV H would have been painted base-coat in dunkelgelb (dark yellow) - Tamiya XF-60.
The red-brown would be XF-64 (the one I usually use- labelled "red brown" - albeit I tinker with it a little from panzer to panzer...)
The dark green would be the Tamiya XF-61- though I've also used the Tamiya olive green (XF-58) if I want something a little lighter. It's that or maybe lighten that dark green a little with buff or deck tan- it seems a little too dark to me.
I think the -60, -61, and -64 colours are the ones called out for in most Tamiya kits of German stuff featuring non-grey paint schemes.
Cheers!
Bob
If you are going with the Tamiya acrylics (which are the paints I use)- that Pz. IV H would have been painted base-coat in dunkelgelb (dark yellow) - Tamiya XF-60.
The red-brown would be XF-64 (the one I usually use- labelled "red brown" - albeit I tinker with it a little from panzer to panzer...)
The dark green would be the Tamiya XF-61- though I've also used the Tamiya olive green (XF-58) if I want something a little lighter. It's that or maybe lighten that dark green a little with buff or deck tan- it seems a little too dark to me.
I think the -60, -61, and -64 colours are the ones called out for in most Tamiya kits of German stuff featuring non-grey paint schemes.
Cheers!
Bob
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Posted: Sunday, November 21, 2010 - 05:50 PM UTC
Hi Len,
Vallejo Model Air (airbrush ready) paints are #71025 Dark Yellow, 71041 Tank Brown, and 71096 Panzer Olive Green. All 3 are excellent matches to the original RAL colors.
Vallejo Model Air (airbrush ready) paints are #71025 Dark Yellow, 71041 Tank Brown, and 71096 Panzer Olive Green. All 3 are excellent matches to the original RAL colors.
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Posted: Sunday, November 21, 2010 - 11:39 PM UTC
Thanks Gents,
Its the old Tamiya 1975 kit so it doesn't even reference Tamiya paint codes.
My understanding is that the dark yellow was painted in the factory but the red brown and dark green were applied in the field from a concentrated paste that varied according to how much it was watered down etc. so there is some leeway with the brown and green. On that basis I would want to lighten up the green for better appearances.
Its the old Tamiya 1975 kit so it doesn't even reference Tamiya paint codes.
My understanding is that the dark yellow was painted in the factory but the red brown and dark green were applied in the field from a concentrated paste that varied according to how much it was watered down etc. so there is some leeway with the brown and green. On that basis I would want to lighten up the green for better appearances.
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Posted: Monday, November 22, 2010 - 08:17 AM UTC
Great looking build Len! You've done an excellent job with an old kit.
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Posted: Monday, November 22, 2010 - 12:10 PM UTC
Thanks Matthew,
The kit goes together really well a testimony to Tamiya's engineering even back then. The only downside was all the clean up. I went through about a dozen No. 11 blades just cleaning off flash :_ . I can't wait to get some paint on it. I've got some ABER MG34 barrels coming for the coaxial and bow MGs too.
Regards
Len
The kit goes together really well a testimony to Tamiya's engineering even back then. The only downside was all the clean up. I went through about a dozen No. 11 blades just cleaning off flash :_ . I can't wait to get some paint on it. I've got some ABER MG34 barrels coming for the coaxial and bow MGs too.
Regards
Len
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Posted: Tuesday, November 23, 2010 - 11:26 AM UTC
Len;
Hey! That old beast is coming out pretty sharp!
Tamiya has a long (and IMHO, well-earned) rep for good engineering and solidly-designed kits. I've just worked up a couple of really old Tamiya stashies... dating back to ca 1972, so about the age of yorn! - an old Horch & flak 38, and that antique Wirbelwind monster. All in all, while they lack some of the detail which comes out of modern kits, they went together well and actually look sorta "the part"!
Just for viewing pleasure and whatever amusement folks can get from it... here's my old treasure Wirbelwind- almost complete. I did tweak details with styrene, put on some old Dragon link tracks, and added some paste zimmerit. The errors, of course, are all mine. The kit was actually a lot of fun to put together (after, as you found, too, several Nr. 11 blades and some sand paper!).
Hey! That old beast is coming out pretty sharp!
Tamiya has a long (and IMHO, well-earned) rep for good engineering and solidly-designed kits. I've just worked up a couple of really old Tamiya stashies... dating back to ca 1972, so about the age of yorn! - an old Horch & flak 38, and that antique Wirbelwind monster. All in all, while they lack some of the detail which comes out of modern kits, they went together well and actually look sorta "the part"!
Just for viewing pleasure and whatever amusement folks can get from it... here's my old treasure Wirbelwind- almost complete. I did tweak details with styrene, put on some old Dragon link tracks, and added some paste zimmerit. The errors, of course, are all mine. The kit was actually a lot of fun to put together (after, as you found, too, several Nr. 11 blades and some sand paper!).
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Posted: Tuesday, November 23, 2010 - 12:24 PM UTC
Hey Len,
You're doing a very nice job with this old beast. Just an observation but it looks like your tracks may be reversed?
If you are going to be using Tamiya XF-60 Dark Yellow for the base coat, you get a much nicer colour mixing it 50/50 with XF-55 Deck Tan.
You're doing a very nice job with this old beast. Just an observation but it looks like your tracks may be reversed?
If you are going to be using Tamiya XF-60 Dark Yellow for the base coat, you get a much nicer colour mixing it 50/50 with XF-55 Deck Tan.
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Posted: Tuesday, November 23, 2010 - 11:52 PM UTC
Thanks for spotting the tracks - I will turn them around.
BTW what base color for the tracks?
I was thinking of a mixture of dark brown and grey.
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BTW what base color for the tracks?
I was thinking of a mixture of dark brown and grey.
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