Need to check, but off the top of my head I would guess no. But again, we need to check. Will see what I can come up with.
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How to model a T-80
Jacques
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Posted: Monday, August 10, 2015 - 06:12 AM UTC
SpaceXhydro
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Posted: Tuesday, October 20, 2015 - 03:40 AM UTC
Why does the T-80 have a cylinder attached to rear of the turret?
Also why do Russian MBT's have a wooden log attached to the rear of the hull?
Also why do Russian MBT's have a wooden log attached to the rear of the hull?
Konigwolf
Joined: November 06, 2009
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Posted: Tuesday, October 20, 2015 - 05:19 AM UTC
Hydar,
1: The log attached to the side/rear is an unditching log. Long story short, its chained to the tracks at the front and the tank drives forward over log helping to unstick the tank.
2: The tube on the T-80's turret (and some other Russian tanks) is a snorkel tube, allowing the tank to submerge while crossing water hazards.
1: The log attached to the side/rear is an unditching log. Long story short, its chained to the tracks at the front and the tank drives forward over log helping to unstick the tank.
2: The tube on the T-80's turret (and some other Russian tanks) is a snorkel tube, allowing the tank to submerge while crossing water hazards.
SpaceXhydro
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Posted: Wednesday, October 21, 2015 - 12:33 AM UTC
Thanks for the interesting information Andrew. Now i know what those things are used for.
TankManNick
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Posted: Wednesday, October 21, 2015 - 01:11 AM UTC
Cool! I always knew they were 'unditching logs' but had no clue as to how they would actually use them. Thanks for the post. I just love these 'technical' details.
seanmcandrews
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Posted: Sunday, December 18, 2016 - 08:28 PM UTC
DmitryMarkov
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Posted: Sunday, January 08, 2017 - 03:28 PM UTC
I think for today - it's the most compehensive source of modelling info on T-80BV - thanks for posting it here!
GLAARG
Joined: August 05, 2013
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Posted: Wednesday, July 05, 2017 - 11:43 PM UTC
Where exactly are the length and width issues in the Dragon T-80 hull, may I ask?
Having seen pictures of it lined up, side by side, with the Trumpeter, they don't look that far off in either dimension.
Also, if the SP Designs AM is no longer being produced, can you get a reasonable reduction in the hull height and skirt clearance over the road wheels by sanding down the kit rubber rims and/or removing the raised lip to move the mask line inwards?
I'm looking at this-
https://inforeactor.ru/uploads/2017/05/27/orig-5-armiya-1495892731.JPEG
And it looks like the rims are very narrow in terms of black rubber vs muddy wheel.
Thank You
Having seen pictures of it lined up, side by side, with the Trumpeter, they don't look that far off in either dimension.
Also, if the SP Designs AM is no longer being produced, can you get a reasonable reduction in the hull height and skirt clearance over the road wheels by sanding down the kit rubber rims and/or removing the raised lip to move the mask line inwards?
I'm looking at this-
https://inforeactor.ru/uploads/2017/05/27/orig-5-armiya-1495892731.JPEG
And it looks like the rims are very narrow in terms of black rubber vs muddy wheel.
Thank You
Jacques
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Posted: Thursday, July 06, 2017 - 08:23 AM UTC
Overall, the DML hull (this is the actual hull, the fenders, and side skirts) is too long and too narrow. I do not have measurements at hand, but I hope this helps:
The T-80U on the left is accurate, the DML T-80UD kit on the right shows the issue. It is apparent to me, but it is also much easier to notice when you can look at it in hand.
Another example is the DML roadwheels are too narrow and have too large of a diameter.
The easiest way to deal with the track run is to leave it off the top run...just add enough track around the idler and sprocket and when you add the side skirts, you wont see the missing track...unless you pick it up.
The T-80U on the left is accurate, the DML T-80UD kit on the right shows the issue. It is apparent to me, but it is also much easier to notice when you can look at it in hand.
Another example is the DML roadwheels are too narrow and have too large of a diameter.
The easiest way to deal with the track run is to leave it off the top run...just add enough track around the idler and sprocket and when you add the side skirts, you wont see the missing track...unless you pick it up.
JSSVIII
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Posted: Thursday, July 06, 2017 - 03:14 PM UTC
Thank you very much for showing that Jacques, It really makes it clear about the size problems. Again proving the old adage: "A picture is worth a thousand words!"
TopSmith
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Posted: Thursday, December 20, 2018 - 02:42 PM UTC
How does the Xact Scale T80U compare to the Skif kit. Is it a good starting point or better avoided?
seanmcandrews
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Posted: Friday, December 21, 2018 - 02:21 AM UTC
Don't bother with the Skif kit, it was a viable option before the current crop of kits was released as the overall geometry seems better than the DML kit but details are very basic.
stephane
Joined: October 10, 2005
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Posted: Friday, January 25, 2019 - 05:07 AM UTC
Hello
The Skiff kit is just for bins now. Skff didn't have a real T80U in their line.
The XAct T80U is a nice kit but the gun is too short and the vynil tracks aren't great. The front part of the turret could had be better.
I haven't the Trumpeter's T80U/UD but their T84 Oplod (a great kit even if the tracks aren't perfects).
I thinks that now the T80U and the T80UD from Trumpeter are the best choice.
They have a few problems too: the tracks could be replaced by their inexpensive workable set, and the upper front turret area need a bit of work (like Xact).
We're lucky to have so nice modern models of the T5/6/7/8/9 series!
The Skiff kit is just for bins now. Skff didn't have a real T80U in their line.
The XAct T80U is a nice kit but the gun is too short and the vynil tracks aren't great. The front part of the turret could had be better.
I haven't the Trumpeter's T80U/UD but their T84 Oplod (a great kit even if the tracks aren't perfects).
I thinks that now the T80U and the T80UD from Trumpeter are the best choice.
They have a few problems too: the tracks could be replaced by their inexpensive workable set, and the upper front turret area need a bit of work (like Xact).
We're lucky to have so nice modern models of the T5/6/7/8/9 series!
panzerbob01
Joined: March 06, 2010
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Posted: Friday, January 25, 2019 - 05:53 AM UTC
Quoted Text
Hello
The Skiff kit is just for bins now. Skff didn't have a real T80U in their line.
The XAct T80U is a nice kit but the gun is too short and the vynil tracks aren't great. The front part of the turret could had be better.
I haven't the Trumpeter's T80U/UD but their T84 Oplod (a great kit even if the tracks aren't perfects).
I thinks that now the T80U and the T80UD from Trumpeter are the best choice.
They have a few problems too: the tracks could be replaced by their inexpensive workable set, and the upper front turret area need a bit of work (like Xact).
We're lucky to have so nice modern models of the T5/6/7/8/9 series!
I think that the new RPG T-80U kit is / will give Trumpy a real run for the money for this subject. The sprue and built-up photos of the RPG kit are pretty compelling pointers that it is likely to be the current "best kit" available for a T-80U. Convincing enough that I've ordered one from one of those sometimes questionable Chinese e-vendors!
Cheers! Bob
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