i'm planning on ordering some eduard zim online today. they have it for panther A but it's for the italeri model. and mine is dragon. would it go with the dragon fine or not? if not than they have panther A early type for dragon. but the panther i have is panther A late type. thanks guys

no it will not fit as the italeri one had dimention errors with it the zim will be cut to fit that kit only
sorry mate

what abput the early type. would it be to much of a difference? it's for dragon but i mena was early and late zim for panther A's the same? if not what can i do to make the panther A late to early?

The late panther A had a ball mount for the hull machine gun, while the early did not have this feature. I don't think any aftermarket zimm set would allow you to modify this, as you would have to remove the ball mount from the hull and replace it with a rectangular armored flap. Because of this - the zimm wouldn't fit right.

Jeff

damn damn damn. does anyone know where i can get some PE zim for a dragon Panther A late type??? can i buy from atak model site? they have late type panther a zim....

for fear of being called an idiot, but what is a zimmerit...photo etching? I thought it was some kind of anti-magnetic coating for tanks?

nvm guys i just bought some from airconnecion. thanks anyway. mom's not to happy... had to use her credit card. so it goes.....

HellaYella-

You are correct - Zimmermit is indeed an anti-magnetic mine coating. The stuff was troweled on at the factory giving the tank a rough surface, so magnetic mines would not stick to the hull of the tank. Eduard makes an aftermarket photo-etched brass rendering of this stuff. The rough texture of the Zimmermit is replicated in 1/35th scale for application to the model.

Other companies make aftermarket Zimmermit sets out of resin, or you can use putty and texture the surface yourself... I use aftermarket products due to the ease of application - but good results can be achieved via the putty method as well...

Hope that helps-
Jeff

thanks, I have another question...I am painting a Hanomag with D-Day Camoflage..what colors should I use..I remeber there are colors of green, yellow, and brown? Since I have only acrylics available and no airbrush, someone please let me know what to do? Prime it? what's the base color? how to I weather the track, too?

What brand acrylics do you have? I use Tamiya acrylics, but havn't brushed them - I use an airbrush. If you don't want to airbrush, I personally would use enamel paints.Testors Model Master brand enamels were what I used before I got my airbrush - I REALLY liked the way they flow onto the model..... they are very good for not leaving brushmarks. If you use enamels - you won't have to prime the kit. I think you could get by with the following colors:

Panzer Dunkelgelb 1943 -
Schokoladenbraun 1943 RAL 8017-
Panzer Olivgrun 1943
Flat Black (FS 37038)
Steel
Gunmetal
And of course brush cleaner (thinner)

These bottles of paint run about 2 bucks apiece online at greatmodels.com - so I think they would be worth your while if you plan on brushpainting the Hanomag. I havn't tried brush pianting an entire model with acrylics - but I've heard that acrylic paints don't cover as well as enamels in this regard.

Just paint the whole thing Dulkelgelb, then apply the camo colors (brown and green) in whatever pattern you desire over the base yellow.

As far as tracks go - I would paint the whole run of tracks flat black. Then use the thinner and brown colors to mix up a wash. (10 parts thinner to about 2 parts paint) Apply this to your tracks to simulate mud, dirt, etc. I've gotten the best results from using many applications of various color washes. In other words, I use different shades of browns in multiple washes to get subtle variations in the colors. Tan is a good color to use in a wash on tracks - It gives them a dusty, dirty look. After you are happy with the way the tracks look - use a lead pencil (no. 2) and rub the lead on the raised portion of the tracks that contact the ground - this imparts a steel look to these areas of the track. I used this method to do the tracks on this PZkpfw IV D. The model was built out of the box and brush painted.

Jeff

PNZR-CMDR should have checked out the Cavalier brand of Zimmerit. It's real thin resin and easier to cut and trim to your needs. Costs around $20 a set though you can usually find it cheaper

Blaster is right. I find it's easier, can be cut easily, you can do battle damage as well.

There is also a company called Atak


Good luck

gluesniffer i purchased the atak brand. have you ever used it? if so can you simulate damage with it?

Pnzr-cmdr,

I've done mostly Cavalier, I got a CMK hull w/zim for a little more than sheets (then youhave a spare hull). Atak is resin, so you can gouge it, scrape it, cut it, drill it, so that should be could enough to show some nasty battle damage.

Good luck