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Leopard 2a6 PSO Conversion
Buck_Compton
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Posted: Saturday, December 04, 2010 - 11:30 PM UTC
Hey Guys,

I've been searching over the www for a conversion kit or possibillitys for the Leopard 2 PSO. But I coudnt find anything suitable maybe some of you guys have a clue where to look.

This is the example that I would like to go with:
Leopard 2 PSO

I'm sadly enough not much of a scratch builder. But if you guys have a good suggestion?

Cheers Remi
HermannB
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Posted: Sunday, December 05, 2010 - 12:51 AM UTC
Hi Remi,

I don`t think we will see the PSO in plastic or resin. Since it is "only" a demostrator of what can be done with the venerable Leopard 2. Perhaps we will have more luck when the current Leopard 2 A7 will be fielded with the Bundeswehr.

Cheers
Hans-Hermann
Buck_Compton
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Posted: Sunday, December 05, 2010 - 01:12 AM UTC
That new Leopard 2a7 is generally the same as the Leopard PSO it only seems to miss the dozer blade...

Need to keep my hopes up i guess i have this extra leopard 2a6 still standing without use

CHeers Remi
Wakemeup
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Posted: Sunday, December 05, 2010 - 01:19 AM UTC
Hi Remi,
you can try to send a mail to Norman,maybe he can send to you some infos or dimensions or at least some photos of the wip stages.
He used the tamiya kit but now you can pick the HB one(more cheap) and try to do your own model.
I also love this version and I agree with Hans-Hermann about the the unlikely birth of a dedicated conversion

Cheers
Ciro
Nitevision75
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Posted: Sunday, December 05, 2010 - 02:12 AM UTC
Dear Remi,

honestly the Leopard 2 PSO and the Leopard 2A7+ have not too much in common. Just take a look at my website www.tank-masters.de and you find some good photo series of all versions.

Kind regards,
Ralph
Buck_Compton
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Posted: Sunday, December 05, 2010 - 12:35 PM UTC
Well looking at the added armor on the turret and hull i would say there is something in common. except for the exaust and some other details. But thanks any how. Just need to hope that someone at Hobbyboss gets a 'brainfart'. I believe it would be a cool addition to my leopard collection.

Cheers Remi
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Posted: Monday, January 17, 2011 - 03:34 AM UTC
Hi guys,

I think you maybe interested in this:

http://shop.y-modelle.de/umbausatz-leopard-2-a7plus-p-430.html

It's a conversion to turn an HB kit into a Leopard 2A7 and from a first look it seems to resemble the pictures posted by Ralph above (I am no rivet counter).

BTW: is this tank any close to being operational? Is it for the Bundeswehr or offered for export?

Thanks,
HermannB
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Posted: Monday, January 17, 2011 - 07:05 AM UTC
Hello Nicola,

since KMW had shown many different configurations of the Leopard 2, right now nobody can say which version will be finally fielded in Germany. We also have a lack in fundings for weapons and the everlasting question "Do we need tanks at last?" doesn`t make me believe that there will be a Leopard 2 A7 with the Eisernes Kreuz on it. But only time will tell.

HTH
Hans-Hermann
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Posted: Monday, January 17, 2011 - 07:13 AM UTC
Hello Hans-Hermann,

Many thanks for the information. Maybe they will offer update packages that affect only specific pieces of equipment.

Only time will tell, you are right.

ih245dlc
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Posted: Monday, January 17, 2011 - 02:12 PM UTC
I'm planning on doing my own urban Leopard 2A5, I've decided to go with the shorter 44 calibre barrel as I figure it makes more sense in urban areas and instead of a remote weapon station I'm going to use components of the M1A1 Tusk kit like the Israeli style .50 cal machine gun mounted on the main gun. And I'm thinking of putting the ERA skirt armour on it too. I would like to mount a dozer blade with the capability of swivelling it left and right, but I have to figure out how to curve a piece of sheet styrene to the right profile to make a decent looking dozer blade, plus how to mount it to the tank.
haribeau44
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Posted: Monday, January 17, 2011 - 04:38 PM UTC
As far as I remember there was a roumor about Hobby Boss planning a kit some time ago?

Harald
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Posted: Monday, January 17, 2011 - 09:30 PM UTC
I believe you are talking about this.

ih245dlc
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Posted: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 - 03:56 AM UTC
Wow nice is that a Hobby Boss kit or is that some kind of upgrade?
haribeau44
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Posted: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 - 10:42 AM UTC
Hallo, Alex,

can you, please, give some information about what you show?

It looks darn well! And it looks like a conversion set.

Looking forward to your explanations.

Harald
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Posted: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 - 12:52 PM UTC
Hi pal,

This is the master created by the hobbyboss designer. In fact they have planned for sometime of this model. And I believe it will be released within this year. Pay attention to the dozer, i think many of us would find it the key element when talking about PSO.

Though the injection quality of hobbyboss is not as good, they do spend time to do the researches in some rare topics. And let's keep updated!

Cheers
Alex
ih245dlc
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Posted: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 - 01:09 PM UTC
Yeah that dozer blade is probably the best part, I don't understand why the back of tank is so long like that.
franziska44
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Posted: Wednesday, January 19, 2011 - 12:03 PM UTC

Quoted Text

Yeah that dozer blade is probably the best part, I don't understand why the back of tank is so long like that.


That's probably the current generator - separete engine.
haribeau44
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Posted: Wednesday, January 19, 2011 - 02:23 PM UTC
Thanks, Alex,

for the explanation. I hope HB will realize that kit.

I am sure it'll sell. The basics will be in the kit at least.

...and, yes, keep us updated.

Harald
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Posted: Thursday, January 20, 2011 - 11:59 AM UTC
Wow awesome looking kit Alex, I guess i need to keep my patience it seems to be missing the 50cal tough...

cheers
chnoone
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Posted: Thursday, January 20, 2011 - 08:56 PM UTC

Quoted Text

Yeah that dozer blade is probably the best part, I don't understand why the back of tank is so long like that.



So far I recall the new EURO-pack engine (smaller that the current one) is installed, additional armour for the engine compartment deck and rear to reduce mobility kills in urban surroundings, APU and I believe also Air-Con ? installed plus additional room for new electronic/ sensor components.
There is a extensive article in one of the Tankograd mags on this PSO version.

Cheers
Christopher
HermannB
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Posted: Thursday, January 20, 2011 - 10:57 PM UTC
Hi Christpher,

your partly right with your expression, the modified rear hull serves two purposes:
1. It contains a new concept of air intake and sound suppression. It reduces
greatly the risk that Molotov Cocktails set the engine on fire.
2. The thermal and acoustic signature is greatly reduced.
It`s good start from HobbyBoss, I only hope that they will include the FLW 200 Remote Weapons Station.

HTH
Hans-Hermann
alexcheung
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Posted: Friday, January 21, 2011 - 03:56 PM UTC
It is said that it will be release this year but I really wonder as the PSO version is not still finalized. Anyway, we stay tuned and let's see
djiti
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Posted: Friday, January 21, 2011 - 10:25 PM UTC
i hope so much tu see a day, the Buffel coming !

pleassssse HB ! that could be great !
HermannB
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Posted: Friday, January 21, 2011 - 11:09 PM UTC
Salu Djiti,

perhaps I should bring my Büffel photos to the HobbyBoss booth at The Nuremberg Toy Fair?

Hans-Hermann

P.S. Got your Leo kit, will be put in the mail on monday.
ih245dlc
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Posted: Saturday, January 22, 2011 - 01:40 PM UTC

Quoted Text

Hi Christpher,

your partly right with your expression, the modified rear hull serves two purposes:
1. It contains a new concept of air intake and sound suppression. It reduces
greatly the risk that Molotov Cocktails set the engine on fire.
2. The thermal and acoustic signature is greatly reduced.
It`s good start from HobbyBoss, I only hope that they will include the FLW 200 Remote Weapons Station.

HTH
Hans-Hermann



Ahh that explains it thanks for the explanation.
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