Battle Damaged/Destroyed LAV III
Dalarnas, Sweden
Joined: May 08, 2002
KitMaker: 2,264 posts
Armorama: 1,763 posts
Posted: Wednesday, December 08, 2010 - 07:45 AM UTC
Charles
What we perceive to be may not be what we believe to be.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
Scotland, United Kingdom
Joined: December 07, 2007
KitMaker: 2,096 posts
Armorama: 1,983 posts
Posted: Wednesday, December 08, 2010 - 07:48 AM UTC
CUIDICH 'N RIGH
life is a river, it always runs.
Ontario, Canada
Joined: August 05, 2003
KitMaker: 1,698 posts
Armorama: 1,563 posts
Posted: Wednesday, December 08, 2010 - 07:54 AM UTC
I get that you are trying to practice techniques, and the effect on the tires is really well done (how did you do that?)
I think though, that any fire hot enough to burn the green paint off, would also melt the plastic bottle on the antenna, and burn that green thing in the turret basket.
What's the story behind the vehicle - ie, that big hole, it's too big for an RPG, and AFAIK, IED don't make holes in the side. Is it meants to depict an air strike to take out a vehicle that could not be recovered?
Good on you for having the guts to tear apart your scratchbuilt LAV-III, that is quite a decision to make!
Why plan when you can react?
New Jersey, United States
Joined: December 17, 2007
KitMaker: 192 posts
Armorama: 185 posts
Posted: Wednesday, December 08, 2010 - 08:02 AM UTC
Quoted Text
I think though, that any fire hot enough to burn the green paint off, would also melt the plastic bottle on the antenna, and burn that green thing in the turret basket.
Tires as well.
Looks great though, the moment is captured well, hatches open stuff strewn about makes it feel like it was a hectic situation.
Regards.
Resolution (noun) 4. the mental state or quality of being resolved or resolute; firmness of purpose.
Dalarnas, Sweden
Joined: May 08, 2002
KitMaker: 2,264 posts
Armorama: 1,763 posts
Posted: Wednesday, December 08, 2010 - 08:07 AM UTC
Quoted Text
I get that you are trying to practice techniques, and the effect on the tires is really well done (how did you do that?)
I simply took my Dremel and grinding tool and grinded away the rubber.
Quoted Text
I think though, that any fire hot enough to burn the green paint off, would also melt the plastic bottle on the antenna, and burn that green thing in the turret basket.
The bottle will be removed. A for the tarp in the back; it was meant to depict that it was added afterwards. More of a dump-it-whereever..kind of thing.

Quoted Text
What's the story behind the vehicle - ie, that big hole, it's too big for an RPG, and AFAIK, IED don't make holes in the side. Is it meants to depict an air strike to take out a vehicle that could not be recovered?
I actually took that idea from a pic of a LAV III that had pretty much the same hole at the same area on the LAV III
Quoted Text
Good on you for having the guts to tear apart your scratchbuilt LAV-III, that is quite a decision to make!
IT took a while to decide on it but once I started cutting at it, it was no turning back
Charles
What we perceive to be may not be what we believe to be.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
Dalarnas, Sweden
Joined: May 08, 2002
KitMaker: 2,264 posts
Armorama: 1,763 posts
Posted: Wednesday, December 08, 2010 - 08:09 AM UTC
Quoted Text
Quoted Text
I think though, that any fire hot enough to burn the green paint off, would also melt the plastic bottle on the antenna, and burn that green thing in the turret basket.
Tires as well.
Looks great though, the moment is captured well, hatches open stuff strewn about makes it feel like it was a hectic situation.
Regards.
I agree but I just couldn't resist adding them just for the shredded look of them.

Charles
What we perceive to be may not be what we believe to be.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
Pennsylvania, United States
Joined: October 16, 2006
KitMaker: 3,374 posts
Armorama: 3,126 posts
Posted: Wednesday, December 08, 2010 - 08:10 AM UTC
wow, that is simply fantastic!
Florida, United States
Joined: May 16, 2002
KitMaker: 17,694 posts
Armorama: 13,742 posts
Posted: Wednesday, December 08, 2010 - 09:03 AM UTC
It looks good overall. The techniques of rusting and charring look great. In addition to what has already been mentioned, I only see one other issue. The emptyness of the interior is very apparent. For instance, in the below pic, you can see straight through and out the other side.

Some of the internal structures would melt down, but there would still be walls, the engine, and lots of ash and debris on the inside. You would not be able to see through it.
Other than that detail, its a great effort.
Field Artillery --- The KING of BATTLE!!!
"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf." -- George Orwell
Showcase
Dalarnas, Sweden
Joined: May 08, 2002
KitMaker: 2,264 posts
Armorama: 1,763 posts
Posted: Wednesday, December 08, 2010 - 09:14 AM UTC
Quoted Text
It looks good overall. The techniques of rusting and charring look great. In addition to what has already been mentioned, I only see one other issue. The emptyness of the interior is very apparent. For instance, in the below pic, you can see straight through and out the other side.

Some of the internal structures would melt down, but there would still be walls, the engine, and lots of ash and debris on the inside. You would not be able to see through it.
Other than that detail, its a great effort.
Thanks for the constructive criticism. God point. Never thought of that. Oh well. Thanks again.
Charles
What we perceive to be may not be what we believe to be.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
Wyoming, United States
Joined: October 27, 2010
KitMaker: 85 posts
Armorama: 84 posts
Posted: Wednesday, December 08, 2010 - 09:20 AM UTC
Your a sick man Charles. Sick. Talented ! No doubt of that, but sick!
Great job on the rusting and burning. I took a while to look at the tires to make sure they weren't really radials!
Democracy is two wolves and a lamb arguing over what is for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote. Ben Franklin 1752
Dalarnas, Sweden
Joined: May 08, 2002
KitMaker: 2,264 posts
Armorama: 1,763 posts
Posted: Wednesday, December 08, 2010 - 03:16 PM UTC
:-):-):-) yeah Shane. One would have to be crazy to break up a scratch build model, but i guess one. Would have to for the sake of improvement...
Charles
What we perceive to be may not be what we believe to be.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
Alberta, Canada
Joined: July 20, 2006
KitMaker: 706 posts
Armorama: 665 posts
Posted: Wednesday, December 08, 2010 - 06:20 PM UTC
My last tour in the sandbox saw 12 LAV-3's hit and some not looking so healthy, well done on capturing the look, but what is with the antenna ?
Anthony
AMPS # 2734 , IPMS EDMONTON
Win The Firefight, Protect Your Brothers, Leave No One Behind.
Survivor of 7 rotations, last 3 in the sandbox.
"Gone toe to toe with the Taliban, and won."
Dalarnas, Sweden
Joined: May 08, 2002
KitMaker: 2,264 posts
Armorama: 1,763 posts
Posted: Wednesday, December 08, 2010 - 09:21 PM UTC
Quoted Text
My last tour in the sandbox saw 12 LAV-3's hit and some not looking so healthy, well done on capturing the look, but what is with the antenna ?
Anthony
I assumed it should not be there or is it the way it is bent? Please forgive me. I have not seen many pics of any destroyed LAV III. I've been trying but it is hard.
Charles
What we perceive to be may not be what we believe to be.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
Ontario, Canada
Joined: August 05, 2003
KitMaker: 1,698 posts
Armorama: 1,563 posts
Posted: Thursday, December 09, 2010 - 10:51 AM UTC
Quoted Text
I have not seen many pics of any destroyed LAV III. I've been trying but it is hard.
Probably because we were expressly forbidden from taking photos of destroyed / damaged vehicles. Insurgents can use them to gauge whether their IED packed too much or too little explosives. And, the guys who normally take the pics of our kit overseas, probably held back given that there is often human remains on or nearby the vehicle.
Why plan when you can react?
Dalarnas, Sweden
Joined: May 08, 2002
KitMaker: 2,264 posts
Armorama: 1,763 posts
Posted: Thursday, December 09, 2010 - 11:31 AM UTC
I totally understand Graeme. Makes perfect sense.
Charles
What we perceive to be may not be what we believe to be.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
Arkansas, United States
Joined: June 29, 2009
KitMaker: 11,610 posts
Armorama: 7,843 posts
Posted: Thursday, December 09, 2010 - 12:02 PM UTC
All the issues I seem to have have already been stated. So...great work. I don't think I could ever burn down a scratch-build. Too much pride in the finished kit. Very well done.
Ideals are peaceful. History is violent.
Dalarnas, Sweden
Joined: May 08, 2002
KitMaker: 2,264 posts
Armorama: 1,763 posts
Posted: Thursday, December 09, 2010 - 12:08 PM UTC
Thanks Matt. Since these pics were taken I have removed the antenna, water bottle and the rear tires. I left them there just for pure aesthetics reason. I wanted to show off the tires but did not know how to make it look valid next to the wreckage I understand those tires are heavy but let's assume they were put up there by a hydraulic lift.
Charles
What we perceive to be may not be what we believe to be.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
Queensland, Australia
Joined: January 17, 2006
KitMaker: 752 posts
Armorama: 569 posts
Posted: Thursday, December 09, 2010 - 12:36 PM UTC
Charles, that is simply amazing! great work!
Alberta, Canada
Joined: July 20, 2006
KitMaker: 706 posts
Armorama: 665 posts
Posted: Thursday, December 09, 2010 - 12:59 PM UTC
Charles
The antenna would still be straight up , still with that much damage. Nice work on the wheels, looks like the real deal when hit and the tire shredds.
Anthony
Lav-3 In Afghanistan from REALMODELS co Author (photographer)
AMPS # 2734 , IPMS EDMONTON
Win The Firefight, Protect Your Brothers, Leave No One Behind.
Survivor of 7 rotations, last 3 in the sandbox.
"Gone toe to toe with the Taliban, and won."
Seoul, Korea / 대한민국
Joined: February 02, 2006
KitMaker: 177 posts
Armorama: 177 posts
Posted: Thursday, December 09, 2010 - 02:35 PM UTC
Fantastic work!!! It must be the best damaged LAV III I've ever seen and your painting is great!!!
Kim
Dalarnas, Sweden
Joined: May 08, 2002
KitMaker: 2,264 posts
Armorama: 1,763 posts
Posted: Thursday, December 09, 2010 - 09:59 PM UTC
Quoted Text
Charles
The antenna would still be straight up , still with that much damage. Nice work on the wheels, looks like the real deal when hit and the tire shredds.
Anthony
Lav-3 In Afghanistan from REALMODELS co Author (photographer)
Great to hear the Antenna can still be,Anthony . It's great to hear different of opinions.

Thanks. I'll straighten it back on. Thanks for your comments.
Thank you too, Kim
Charles
What we perceive to be may not be what we believe to be.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
Ontario, Canada
Joined: March 01, 2002
KitMaker: 1,607 posts
Armorama: 1,581 posts
Posted: Friday, December 10, 2010 - 11:00 AM UTC
Great work,but I have to agree with Matt.
Didn't hurt to do it to such an exellent stratch build.
Dalarnas, Sweden
Joined: May 08, 2002
KitMaker: 2,264 posts
Armorama: 1,763 posts
Posted: Saturday, December 11, 2010 - 07:52 AM UTC
Ha Ha...Totally understand. There are enough LAV III's around. I got pics as memory.

Charles
What we perceive to be may not be what we believe to be.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------