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Future+Tamiya Flat Base
mrob96
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Posted: Monday, December 20, 2010 - 06:40 PM UTC
When you want to make Future go flat, i have read about using Tamiya Flat base mixed in with it. What is the recommended ratio future to base with this? Also, is it possible to brush the mixture on like you can with future by itself? I have decided to just airbrush/brush everything from now on, recent rattle can disaster Thanks for any info you can provide me about Future+Tamiya flat base!
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Posted: Monday, December 20, 2010 - 11:15 PM UTC
If you want it to be flat, why would you even use future?
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Posted: Tuesday, December 21, 2010 - 12:20 AM UTC

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When you want to make Future go flat, i have read about using Tamiya Flat base mixed in with it. What is the recommended ratio future to base with this? Also, is it possible to brush the mixture on like you can with future by itself? I have decided to just airbrush/brush everything from now on, recent rattle can disaster Thanks for any info you can provide me about Future+Tamiya flat base!



Matt, You can start with a 50-50 mix. Use more Tamiya Flat Base if you really want it close to or even dead flat. Just make sure you mix it well so you don't end up having those white residue.. I use a flat brush to apply -- one thing good about it is that I can always check if the mix in my bowl has none of those white residue. Best to practice on a scratch kit to get the hang of it. Works well for me. Cheers -- Tat
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Posted: Tuesday, December 21, 2010 - 08:59 AM UTC
Matt,

Suggested ratios of Tamiya flat base for different effects:

1 part flat base to 3 parts Future = very flat
1 part flat base to 10 parts Future = flat
1 part flat base to 15 parts Future = satin

Beware! Try the very flat finish on an old model or spare piece of plastic first!

I used the 1:3 ratio to finish a new project. Unfortunately, it dried with a frosty chalky look, and I had to redo.

Regards,

Rich
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Posted: Wednesday, December 29, 2010 - 02:14 PM UTC
This is my new favorite flat base. If you want my recommendation, get one of the large tamiya mixing jars (46ml). Shake well and dump a 10ml bottle of flat base in it (don't worry about getting all of it, just pour until it stops dripping). Then fill the large mixing jar up close to the top with Future. You'll get something between a 1:5 and 1:10 ratio that has worked several times with me.

When using it, be sure to shake it well. I haven't tried brushing it on, but it should work without fuss (it's Future, so what can't it do).

Hope this helps.
SSGToms
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Posted: Wednesday, December 29, 2010 - 03:33 PM UTC
I've been using flat base and future for a couple of years now. I did a bunch of tests on my own and came up with 2 parts flat base to 3 parts future as my dead flat favorite. I have never had it frost on me.
TFrancoM5A1
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Posted: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 - 03:04 PM UTC
SSG Toms, first post. Been lurking here for approx. 1 year, but never posted before.

Today I tried using the Future + Tamiya Flat Base on my AFV Club M5A1 Late. I mixed it 2 parts Flat Base to 3 parts Future as I saw mentioned in your Finishing and Weathering Sequence post awhile back and applied it to my model with an airbrush. Unfortunately, it frosted, in some areas more than others. More than likely, it was my fault, ab'd it on too thickly and too quickly. Did a search here to research solutions to the problem, but nothing turned up.

My question to you is how can I fix this? Would mixing and spraying a more satin mixture (more Future, less Flat Base) do the trick. Any suggestions would help.

Thanks, Tom
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Posted: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 - 04:03 PM UTC
Hi Tom,
Well, welcome to Armorama. Your flat coat was most likely applied too thick and too wet. It needs to be done in several light misting coats.
A few light coats of straight Future should make the frosting disappear. Then you can try the flat coat again. Remember, several light misting coats.
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