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Using Rustall
long_tom
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Posted: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 - 02:27 PM UTC
I'm trying Rustall again, using it to paint some tank tracks primed with gray primer, as recommended in the directions. While the rust color is accumulating upon the surface as it supposed to, the process seems too slow and will end up requiring a million and one applications. Did I use the wrong primer type, or is this simply an inherent property of using Rustall?
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Posted: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 - 07:09 PM UTC
I think we may need more information. What primer are you using?
long_tom
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Posted: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 - 11:52 PM UTC

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I think we may need more information. What primer are you using?

Gray Tamiya primer.
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Posted: Thursday, January 06, 2011 - 01:47 AM UTC
Given, it's been over a decade since I used RustAll, but as I recall, Rustall is used in more of a 'hint of rust' sort of way, to be used over paint, not as a substitute for paint.

Unless the tank has been knocked out for quite some time, there should be no rust on the tracks anyway.
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Posted: Thursday, January 06, 2011 - 06:05 AM UTC

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Given, it's been over a decade since I used RustAll, but as I recall, Rustall is used in more of a 'hint of rust' sort of way, to be used over paint, not as a substitute for paint.

Unless the tank has been knocked out for quite some time, there should be no rust on the tracks anyway.


I remember reading that tracks are supposed to be rusty except on the surfaces that actually touch the hard ground, which are supposed to be shiny metal.
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Posted: Thursday, January 06, 2011 - 09:16 AM UTC

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Given, it's been over a decade since I used RustAll, but as I recall, Rustall is used in more of a 'hint of rust' sort of way, to be used over paint, not as a substitute for paint.

Unless the tank has been knocked out for quite some time, there should be no rust on the tracks anyway.


I remember reading that tracks are supposed to be rusty except on the surfaces that actually touch the hard ground, which are supposed to be shiny metal.


Google search for images of tanks in action. You will see almost no rust if the tanks have been moving recently. Even if they were rusty, as soon as they start moving, any rust would be covered with dust, dirt, mud, whatever terrain the tracks are moving through.
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Posted: Thursday, January 06, 2011 - 02:55 PM UTC
Tom,
I still use Rust-all quite a bit. For tracks, I usually paint the tracks black, then go over them with rust-all. The rust-all will work its way into all the nooks and crannies. Then, I'll give the tracks a dry-brushing of a metallic steel over the raised detail. Hope this helps.
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Posted: Saturday, January 08, 2011 - 01:42 PM UTC
the main place you will find rust on tracks is on any spare link that is on the vehicle.

very little surface rust is found on the tracks on the vehicle it self

may be a little in the grousers on the verticle survases but where the track makes contact with the roadwheels ground etc you wont find any
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