09 days into 2011...and a Greeting to all friends out there!
To.... my surprise, I found this Template/Jig inside a package I received from Milo of Realmodel. I was pretty excited to test it out but could only find the time this month. So I've a small sort of "Review" to share with you all...
Err..Excuse the fumbling for the right words..
The photo etch brass sheet (36143) is 9.5cm by 7cm. All you got to do is remove the Jigs from the runner and bend the edges on each side and you're ready to go!
There are 5 Jigs/Fitting Tools, with multiple slits along each side. The slits start 2mm above the base, preventing glue or solder from attaching the slat to the jig.
Each jig is designed specifically for positioning and assembly of the individual slat pieces into their corresponding sections.
For example : Jig "2" is for assembly of slat sections "G and R".
(BTW,I recommend you number each jig with a marker pen!)
There are notches in 3 of the jigs, these are of course where the rectangular bars/frames will sit during assembly,etc. Regarding these notches, jig 5 can be also used to position the completed slat section (nos: 125, 149, 151) into slat section "Y" for gluing/soldering.
Note that jig "3" is unique since it's slits are angled, contrary to the other jigs which are perpendicular. Jig 3 will ease the assembly as well since the slats will be fitted at an angle to the rear doors' slat section.
The photos below show one example of how I would use them. But be flexible to whichever method works best, securing/gluing the main slat with slits to the frame then slotting the multiple slats into the slits or vice visa, followed by gluing the joints at one go,etc.
If you are soldering, you'll want to ensure the jig is kept clean from flux, and away from the joint/joints to be soldered. You'll also need magnets to secure the jig down and position a jewelers file (for example) over the slat section to keep it from moving during soldering. The idea is for the file to be attracted to the magnet, so be careful and test the magnet's strength first!
Conclusion..
I have built only 1 slat armored Stryker for a client located in the US (I'm in Singapore BTW) Which means the slats have to be secured very well to survive the trip there. I spent many hours using various bits of magnets,files and what-nots to keep the slat parts positioned so I can assemble and super glue or solder them. A lot of effort and a lot more frustration then I like to admit.. and I have 5 more Strykers to complete..which I can look forward to now!
Thus having tested out these jigs, I conclude they will surely ease assembly and speed the whole slat armor process up!
My only rift is why Eduard did not release this set earlier!!!
Testing..........without any glue.
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Stryker Slat Bending Template by Eduard
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Posted: Saturday, January 08, 2011 - 06:17 AM UTC
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Posted: Saturday, January 08, 2011 - 06:36 AM UTC
Wow, a Stryker might be possible now! Really cool jig, thanks for sharing.
stephane
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Posted: Saturday, January 08, 2011 - 07:29 AM UTC
Hi
Great , it could be great to know if it works too with Griffon's slat since ... i have this one.
Thanks for sharing
Stéphane
Great , it could be great to know if it works too with Griffon's slat since ... i have this one.
Thanks for sharing
Stéphane
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Posted: Saturday, January 08, 2011 - 08:04 AM UTC
Thx for posting, You really made my day
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Posted: Saturday, January 08, 2011 - 03:42 PM UTC
Thanks for the quick responses.
The jig's slits are a tiny bit larger than the slats, so Yes, it will work for Griffon's Slat, I have that set too. In fact, it should work on the other makers of Slats as well, since the sections and thickness are very similar.
The jig's slits are a tiny bit larger than the slats, so Yes, it will work for Griffon's Slat, I have that set too. In fact, it should work on the other makers of Slats as well, since the sections and thickness are very similar.
stephane
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Posted: Sunday, January 09, 2011 - 07:26 AM UTC
Thanks for the reply.
I'm just not sure that the space between each slat is the same on Eduard's and Griffon's sets (i hopes you understand what i means). If yes i'll get this set, may i asks that you check Ed and Griffon set you have?
Thanks in advance
Stéphane
I'm just not sure that the space between each slat is the same on Eduard's and Griffon's sets (i hopes you understand what i means). If yes i'll get this set, may i asks that you check Ed and Griffon set you have?
Thanks in advance
Stéphane
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Posted: Sunday, January 09, 2011 - 04:51 PM UTC
Stephane,
Silly me,I just checked my Griffon slat and you are right. There will be some issues using the Eduard template because the "horizontal slat spacing " (space between each slat) is slightly different. However not all is lost and you can still use it up to 70%.
There are 12 horizontal slats in each typical slat sections. The slits on Eduard's template will comfortably fit 7 to 8 slats. Once you complete these, just reposition the template below the completed slats and start on the remainder 4 to 5 slats.
Hope you understand?
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Posted: Monday, January 10, 2011 - 01:50 AM UTC
many many thanks Nick!
You understood what i tried to explain and i understood what you said
I'll give a try to the set, you gave us a (at least to me) a very informative news.
Thanks again very much
Stéphane
You understood what i tried to explain and i understood what you said
I'll give a try to the set, you gave us a (at least to me) a very informative news.
Thanks again very much
Stéphane
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Posted: Monday, January 10, 2011 - 06:21 AM UTC
Glad to be of help Stéphane.
GOOOOD LUCK!
GOOOOD LUCK!
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Posted: Friday, December 09, 2011 - 10:18 AM UTC
would this Template be any good for building the m1a2 tusk rear slat armour as im have a nightmare building it. it kepts bending all over the place. any help would be great
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Posted: Friday, December 09, 2011 - 10:22 AM UTC
Great idea! I'll bet some enterprising young minds out there can use it to fab up their own slat armor from Evergreen for say... the Buffalo.
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Posted: Friday, December 09, 2011 - 10:32 AM UTC
Quoted Text
Great idea! I'll bet some enterprising young minds out there can use it to fab up their own slat armor from Evergreen for say... the Buffalo.
Or they will build their Buffalo from the days before slat was in vogue, say 2005-2006... I am looking forward to that Buffalo more than I am the MAT-V.
John
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Posted: Friday, December 09, 2011 - 10:39 AM UTC
Well, since my D9R is complete but not painted, and my Buffalo is nearly complete, I think I'll have to challenge myself on one or the other.
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Posted: Friday, December 09, 2011 - 10:57 AM UTC
Then finish the SOF Chopper... That is a fine body of work on that motorcycle lift - considerably off topic for this conversation but needed to be said regardless.
John
John
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Posted: Friday, December 09, 2011 - 12:18 PM UTC
I attempted to use my template for the building a panel from styrene. The thinnest styrene I could find was too thick to fit into the slots in the template. Not by much, but enough that it didn't work for me.
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Posted: Friday, December 09, 2011 - 12:26 PM UTC
Was it .010?
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Posted: Friday, December 09, 2011 - 12:37 PM UTC
Yes it was.
.010x.060" strips
Didn't fit into the slots in the Eduard templates
.010x.060" strips
Didn't fit into the slots in the Eduard templates
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Posted: Friday, December 09, 2011 - 12:41 PM UTC
Damn, that's what I planned on using.
John, the Infidel Chopper will be ready very soon.
Opinion please: Natural Metal overall or CARC Sand tanks and fender over matte black powdercoated frame?
John, the Infidel Chopper will be ready very soon.
Opinion please: Natural Metal overall or CARC Sand tanks and fender over matte black powdercoated frame?
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Posted: Friday, December 09, 2011 - 02:53 PM UTC
IMHO, Sand over black... Maybe some Army Green (FS34094), brass and natural metal touches.
Again, the machine looked like a professional did it, without going overboard on the bling. Great work
Again, the machine looked like a professional did it, without going overboard on the bling. Great work