Hello guys i know this kit was made pretty much obsolete by all the releases by dragon and trumpeter but i already had everything bought long before they were released and have no intentions of ditching it so it gets built now
It is the Tamiya kit with eduard PE, modelkasten tracks and signifer front wheels and probably will use griffon tool clamps.
not a step by step but here are some progress shots, the cab is dry fitted until i get the interior painted also the wheels need cleaning still along with one or two other things .
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Tamiya sd.kfz. 7/2 3.7cm flak
biffa
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Posted: Saturday, January 08, 2011 - 02:44 PM UTC
Villiers
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Posted: Saturday, January 08, 2011 - 04:46 PM UTC
Ron,
It looks great! When all has been said and done, it is all about having fun
Regards, Villiers
It looks great! When all has been said and done, it is all about having fun
Regards, Villiers
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Posted: Saturday, January 08, 2011 - 08:15 PM UTC
I had done the same as you, brought the Tamiya kit, Signifer wheels, Eduard PE, I had a RB Model barrel and Friul tracks, but I abandoned ship and sold off the kit, wheels and PE and brought the Dragon version
Kudos to you for going ahead with the build
I'll be watching with interest to see how it turns out
Kudos to you for going ahead with the build
I'll be watching with interest to see how it turns out
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Posted: Sunday, January 09, 2011 - 02:10 AM UTC
Hi Ron,good choise! it's a specialist's job comparated to the construction of new and detailed Dragon/Trumpeter kits! same situation for me:Tamiya Sd.kfz.7/1 bought 5 years ago plus Friul tracks,Eduard PE, Armo barrels,unfortunately not good detailed,I think to take another set of barrels!
cheers
Antonio
cheers
Antonio
Jacques
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Posted: Thursday, January 13, 2011 - 04:29 AM UTC
Ron, are you going to be able to document your current painting/weathering techniques this time? I know the Pz1 AA went bust, so...
rolf
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Posted: Thursday, January 13, 2011 - 05:37 AM UTC
Great job, I am going to do the exact same thing as I too have all those goodies except the front tires (I also have the Trumpeter and Dragon kits as well). Couple of questions, didn't your Model Kasten tracks come with new road wheels (mine did) and if so why did you not use them as they are way better than the old Tamiya ones? Also it looks like you smoothed or rounded the sprockets. I have to look at mine but they shouldn't be round. Where did you get the Signifier front tires from as they have the tread pattern I want on mine? Like Andrew I also have a RB barrel for mine. Will you be using an A.M. barrel? Again great job.
Roy
Roy
rolf
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Posted: Wednesday, January 19, 2011 - 03:45 AM UTC
I looked at my MK set and the sprockets are indeed round. This is not correct as they should have about 13 or 14 flat sides like this pic.
http://gallery.kitmaker.net/data/16051/DSC2406a.jpg
FYI. I think most people wouldn't care or know. One thing I am wondering about are the road wheels. I do not have alot of reference material on this vehicle and am wondering if all Armored 7/2s had the later suspension. If so then the Tamiya kit is wrong as well as the MK set.
Roy
http://gallery.kitmaker.net/data/16051/DSC2406a.jpg
FYI. I think most people wouldn't care or know. One thing I am wondering about are the road wheels. I do not have alot of reference material on this vehicle and am wondering if all Armored 7/2s had the later suspension. If so then the Tamiya kit is wrong as well as the MK set.
Roy
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Posted: Wednesday, January 19, 2011 - 02:28 PM UTC
Thank all for the comments and interest in this oldie i must say for a stress free fun build you just cant beat some of these old Tamiya kits i am glad i went ahead with it i am adding the last touches of weathering hopefully this weekend i will get some pics up, sorry Jacques i wasnt able to blog this paint job either i just didnt follow any kind of pattern with it i was just doing a bit of this and some of that etc which would have amounted to hundreds of pics with no real steps involved but i have a tamiya churchill built with a basecoat of green that i plan on using for a weathering step by step as soon as i can actually manage to break it down into steps. (soon)
Hi Roy, i started gathering all the bits and bobs for this build about 4 years ago with the kit and the eduard PE then i added the signifer wheels then the last thing i bought was the MK tracks from a fellow modeler who had used the wheel set himself but the sprockets were included but apparently the fruil ones are the only accurate AM ones for this kit (that may have changed since i was putting the parts for this build together), i was planning on adding a wheel set and barrel also but i hit a slump which lasted a year and when i got my desire to build again (last month) i was shocked to see both dragon and trumpeter had released new kits of this so i decided then i wasnt going to sink anymore money into this when there is still so much that wouldnt be right with it no matter what but all the time i had spent shopping and planning for it i was going to build it with what i had and not worry too much about the details and i am so glad i did because it really has been a fun one i am currently putting the last touches of weathering on it and hopefully this weekend will see it done.
I think i bought my wheels on ebay but it was several years ago and dont really remember to be honest.
here is a thread that may help answer some questions about this kit.
https://armorama.kitmaker.net/forums/113325&ord=&page=1
i have another link to a site with more info on the wheels and pics also but the link is on my lap top i will post it later this evening.
*edit here is that link be sure to check the whole thread for some nice pics etc,,
http://www.portierramaryaire.com/foro/viewtopic.php?f=7&p=122518
Hi Roy, i started gathering all the bits and bobs for this build about 4 years ago with the kit and the eduard PE then i added the signifer wheels then the last thing i bought was the MK tracks from a fellow modeler who had used the wheel set himself but the sprockets were included but apparently the fruil ones are the only accurate AM ones for this kit (that may have changed since i was putting the parts for this build together), i was planning on adding a wheel set and barrel also but i hit a slump which lasted a year and when i got my desire to build again (last month) i was shocked to see both dragon and trumpeter had released new kits of this so i decided then i wasnt going to sink anymore money into this when there is still so much that wouldnt be right with it no matter what but all the time i had spent shopping and planning for it i was going to build it with what i had and not worry too much about the details and i am so glad i did because it really has been a fun one i am currently putting the last touches of weathering on it and hopefully this weekend will see it done.
I think i bought my wheels on ebay but it was several years ago and dont really remember to be honest.
here is a thread that may help answer some questions about this kit.
https://armorama.kitmaker.net/forums/113325&ord=&page=1
i have another link to a site with more info on the wheels and pics also but the link is on my lap top i will post it later this evening.
*edit here is that link be sure to check the whole thread for some nice pics etc,,
http://www.portierramaryaire.com/foro/viewtopic.php?f=7&p=122518
rolf
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Posted: Thursday, January 20, 2011 - 05:53 AM UTC
I need to clarify that what I meant about the MK wheels and tracks being wrong, that statement is valid only if doing a late version Sd.Kfz. 7. They are o.k. for an early. My question is if there is any info regarding whether or not any armored cab 7/2s had early road wheels and tracks or did they just have the late. As I said I have the Trumpeter and Dragon Sd.Kfz. 7/2 kits as well as this one. I do plan on doing all three of them (I may need to live to be 175 for this to actually happen but you never know) as I think this is a cool vehicle.
Roy
Roy
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Posted: Thursday, January 20, 2011 - 12:23 PM UTC
yea i have gotten quite confused (im always confused) during the researching this build back when i was going to try fix as much as i could, the second link i posted near the bottom there is a couple of pics of the sd.kfz. 7 with armoured cabs with at least one what looks to be the same or close again i probably am missing something really obvious though .
heres one pic helped me decide to just go for it
posted for discussion purposes only.
heres one pic helped me decide to just go for it
posted for discussion purposes only.
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Posted: Friday, January 21, 2011 - 08:22 AM UTC
That is a cool pic. It is a late style cab w/bent armor on the cab sides (instead of plates bolted together). The suspension is also the late type as can be seen by the road wheel hubs. My guess would be that the sides are wooden and not the mesh type as on the Tamiya kit. Tamiya's kit is an earlier version with the bolted side armor on the cab, mesh rear and earlier suspension. I have found a bunch of pics on the web that are perfect matches for the Tamiya kit and verifies that the early suspension was used on early 7/2s.
http://ww2photo.mimerswell.com/tanks/d/sdkfz/sd7/02677.jpg
Now here is a pic of an early cab, early suspension but with a wooden rear side.
http://reocities.com/Pentagon/3620/sdkfz7_2.jpg
So you are o.k. with your build as you are right now (except the sprocket is wrong but thats fine). A curious thing is that Tamiya's box art depicts the later cab type with the bent armor plate but the actual kit part is the earlier type. I am glad I found this pic as it makes my life easier when building the Tamiya and Dragon kits (Dragon's come with a early suspension also but gives you both cab and rear side types).
Roy
http://ww2photo.mimerswell.com/tanks/d/sdkfz/sd7/02677.jpg
Now here is a pic of an early cab, early suspension but with a wooden rear side.
http://reocities.com/Pentagon/3620/sdkfz7_2.jpg
So you are o.k. with your build as you are right now (except the sprocket is wrong but thats fine). A curious thing is that Tamiya's box art depicts the later cab type with the bent armor plate but the actual kit part is the earlier type. I am glad I found this pic as it makes my life easier when building the Tamiya and Dragon kits (Dragon's come with a early suspension also but gives you both cab and rear side types).
Roy
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Posted: Saturday, January 22, 2011 - 07:43 AM UTC
Thanks for the interest and comments guys i have enjoyed building this one its been a nice stress free project and although far from being perfect im still satisfied with the result [:)]
i finished putting this one together using what i had the biggest problem was the wheels being far too wide for the MK tracks so lots of chopping was done to get these narrow enough to work
the interior got a paintjob but just enough for what could be seen through the back window
and here she is painted and weathered i didnt bother trying to log any of this for two reasons really, first i just want to get on with it for now having just got back and dont want to get too bogged down with the picture taking etc and secondly i really am not following any kind of steps but just doing some of this then some of that and would only end up with 50+ images that made no sense so anyway the pics...
i finished putting this one together using what i had the biggest problem was the wheels being far too wide for the MK tracks so lots of chopping was done to get these narrow enough to work
the interior got a paintjob but just enough for what could be seen through the back window
and here she is painted and weathered i didnt bother trying to log any of this for two reasons really, first i just want to get on with it for now having just got back and dont want to get too bogged down with the picture taking etc and secondly i really am not following any kind of steps but just doing some of this then some of that and would only end up with 50+ images that made no sense so anyway the pics...
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Posted: Sunday, January 23, 2011 - 01:25 AM UTC
Hi Roy,
Very nice!I like your model camo and moderate weathering.
cheers
Antonio
Very nice!I like your model camo and moderate weathering.
cheers
Antonio
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Posted: Sunday, January 23, 2011 - 10:56 AM UTC
Beautiful - I love it! The colours of the camouflage and the weathering are very realistic. Stevie.
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Posted: Sunday, January 23, 2011 - 02:39 PM UTC
great work love the camo scheme and weathering very realistic
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Posted: Sunday, January 23, 2011 - 05:22 PM UTC
Hay "biffa" i have that kit as well and I have most of the AF kits that you used. I also plan on adding a bit more scratchbuilt items and body detail. Along with figuers. It has taken me some two and a half year to collect all the AF kits that I wanted use. I hope to start it soon.
Here's the list of AF kit's that I will be using.
Aber #35L-12 German 3.7 cm Flak 37 Barrek: Aluminum Barrel with Brass Muzzle.
Archer Fine Transfers (Decals) Armor Side markings,box labels ect...
Eduard #35489 Sd.Kfz. 7/2 Flak 3.7-37cm PE set.(For Tamiya)
Friulmodel ATL-24 Sd.Kfz. 7-8t Full Track set w/Sprocket.
Royal Model #467 Tread Plate No. 1
Voyager Model #TE017 Antiskid Plate set
After all that stuff I'll be using Evergreen styrene,K&N brass sheet,copper wire,led wire ect...
As you see I will have alot to do, so I'm going to keep up with your build! Thanks for sharing.
Here's the list of AF kit's that I will be using.
Aber #35L-12 German 3.7 cm Flak 37 Barrek: Aluminum Barrel with Brass Muzzle.
Archer Fine Transfers (Decals) Armor Side markings,box labels ect...
Eduard #35489 Sd.Kfz. 7/2 Flak 3.7-37cm PE set.(For Tamiya)
Friulmodel ATL-24 Sd.Kfz. 7-8t Full Track set w/Sprocket.
Royal Model #467 Tread Plate No. 1
Voyager Model #TE017 Antiskid Plate set
After all that stuff I'll be using Evergreen styrene,K&N brass sheet,copper wire,led wire ect...
As you see I will have alot to do, so I'm going to keep up with your build! Thanks for sharing.
biffa
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Posted: Tuesday, January 25, 2011 - 05:30 AM UTC
Thank you guys for the great comments i am glad you liked the result caveman it looks like you have everything you need i hope you do a blog i would like to follow it, you will definatly enjoy it .