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Iraqi BTR 70 ???
Frenchy
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Posted: Monday, September 01, 2003 - 07:48 PM UTC
I have an opportunity to make a good deal about several Zvezda/DML kits including BTR 70s and 80s and I was wondering if Iraq uses (or used ) them ? Can't find any pics...

TIA
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Posted: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 - 12:12 AM UTC
According to my '96-'97 volume of Jane's Armour & Artillery they didn't have them, so Desert Storm would be out. Guess they could've bought them since, though...

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Olaf
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Posted: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 - 01:38 AM UTC
So, let's see what comes out from Google... String for the search: BTR-70 Iraq

[PDF]Key Targets in Iraq
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... with some heavy weapons, including PT-76 light tanks and BTR-70 armored personnel ... Iraq’s
Ministry of Information has served as both a particularly strong and ...
www.csis.org/stratassessment/reports/iraq_targets.pdf - Páginas Semelhantes
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Posted: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 - 06:16 AM UTC
Hi Ricardo and Olaf
I have already made this Google search. According to this site, Saddam's Fedayens were equipped with this APC. But this is the only mention of Iraqi BTR 70s I have found for now I'd prefer to find corroborating informations. Olaf is right, the Jane's listings of Iraqi equipment I have found on several websites do not mention them. May be I should rather buy some Zvezda T 72s for some future wrecks...

Thank to you both !
Frenchy
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Posted: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 - 06:28 AM UTC
Zvezda T 72s ??????

Isn t there any better model company that brought out the T72 ?
I don t have a T-72 need some too as we both have the same project (OIF) But what about Italeris T-72 ? is that one from Dragon ? ISn t that oen form It and DRag, better?
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Posted: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 - 06:31 AM UTC
There's alot of reviewers that have knocked both DML /Dragon and Tamiya T-72s as being "very inaccurate". I have both and they look enough like T-72s for me. Like the Tamiya fit better.
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Posted: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 - 06:48 AM UTC

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I have an opportunity to make a good deal about several Zvezda/DML kits including BTR 70s and 80s and I was wondering if Iraq uses (or used ) them ? Can't find any pics..



Hi Frenchy!
As I know they didn't have the BTR-70 in Iraqi -- only the BTR-60 and some chinese tracked APCs.
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Posted: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 - 06:53 AM UTC

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May be I should rather buy some Zvezda T 72s for some future wrecks...


Not the best choice -- Zvezda's T-72 (formerly old Dragon's kit) represent T-72B model with significally thicker turret front armor. In Iraqi they have the earlier T-72M/M1 (export versions of T-72A model). So Tamiya's one (or one from Trumpeter to build as an destroyed vehicle ) will be much better.
Best regards
Lis
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Posted: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 - 07:33 AM UTC
Guys,

Zvezda T-72 = Italeri T-72 = DML T-72

It's all the same DML kit, reboxed. Italeri has reboxed DML kits in Europe for at least a decade, and Zvezda has just started rereleasing modern DML kits, such as the BTRs and T-series.

Cheers

Olaf
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