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T-54/Type 59 UN service in Croatia
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Posted: Tuesday, February 15, 2011 - 07:08 AM UTC

here's a pic i've got it was posted by Mauro-can anyone say is it a t-54 with a "twist" or Chinese Type 59 and any additional info-pics would be great
Kind regards,Sven!
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Posted: Tuesday, February 15, 2011 - 07:41 AM UTC
Sven

I looked at pakistan defense site and at some other links

Is a chinese Type 59 II



But unfortunately i haven't found any pic of bosnian mission
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Posted: Tuesday, February 15, 2011 - 09:16 AM UTC
so i should get turmpeter's type 59 or?
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Posted: Tuesday, February 15, 2011 - 09:31 AM UTC

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so i should get turmpeter's type 59 or?


...UGLY! (and made with a strange plastic which is hard to work)

The best way could be a t55 Tamiya conversion

Or maybe a kit bashing beetween the japanese and the chinese kits

I don't know, probably there are some resin conversion...

Anyway, trumpeter sells two kits





I don't know which is the best. Probably the first

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Posted: Tuesday, February 15, 2011 - 09:41 AM UTC
ok,cool than ill make the t-55 with coversion
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Posted: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 - 05:39 AM UTC
Ehi Sven

Look there:

http://www.amcars.cz/?page=iTank/UNT-55C

Is perhaps our tank? To be honest I don't think so. I found it by chance in a czeck site

Anyway it looks very interesting indeed

I think that the gun was removed after the service use

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Posted: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 - 06:11 AM UTC
im not really sure i can be our tank but in later stages it was deffo green before seen by chipped white paint could be
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Posted: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 - 06:53 AM UTC
...and some fenders are gray and the wheels are painted in olive drab

Did czeck army partecipte in some Un mission?
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Posted: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 - 09:33 AM UTC

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...and some fenders are gray and the wheels are painted in olive drab

Did czeck army partecipte in some Un mission?


the gray may be some kind of primer,im not sure for Czech army,i hope someone from Czech rep. will reply?
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Posted: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 - 09:42 AM UTC
ok i found out

Czech and 55 other countries were involved in UNMEE (United Nations Mission in Ethiopia and Eritrea)
and Cz used this tanks
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Posted: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 - 11:07 AM UTC

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ok i found out

Czech and 55 other countries were involved in UNMEE (United Nations Mission in Ethiopia and Eritrea)
and Cz used this tanks


Fantastic Sven. thanks a lot!
That's the reason why there's a camel shape on the right of the turret

Here you are a UNMEE photogallery

http://galerie.valka.cz/showgallery.php/cat/997

The gun wasn't mounted on those tank actually

Most likely they were involved in mine reclamation
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Posted: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 - 11:20 AM UTC
No,thank you,ill check those photos later,and try to discover more things
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Posted: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 - 11:23 AM UTC

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No,thank you,ill check those photos later,and try to discover more things


:D

Well Look also this

http://en.valka.cz/viewtopic.php/t/29015
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Posted: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 - 11:36 AM UTC
that looks very cool,now we have a good amount of pics but we can use more info to make a historical accurate model
the only bad thing is that the pics we have are from different tanks,we need more pics of one tank to model.
Cheers,Sven
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Posted: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 - 11:40 AM UTC
found more pics

http://unmee.unmissions.org/Portals/unmee/Documents/UNMEE_Magazines/Special%20Edition,%20Military%20-%20final.pdf - check page 6

some info- http://www.reliefweb.int/rw/RWB.NSF/db900SID/KHII-78Q2VJ?OpenDocument

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Posted: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 - 11:46 AM UTC
Thanks a lot

Would you mind if I will open (tomorrow) a new tread about those info?

Sharing references is very important in my opinion

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Posted: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 - 06:34 PM UTC

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Thanks a lot

Would you mind if I will open (tomorrow) a new tread about those info?

Sharing references is very important in my opinion



no,i wouldn't! infact i'd be very glad,yeah sharing references is very important
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Posted: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 - 07:24 PM UTC
Thanks a lot

When I'll have some time I posted

Cheers
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Posted: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 - 09:20 PM UTC
Sven and Mauro,
thanks a lot for your investigational work on these two interesting subjects.

I found out that the Type 59 tanks from PAKBAT were part of the UNTAES Mission (United Nations Transitional Administration for Eastern Slavonia).

In this article from fas.org you find more about this mission and also the picture which caused this thread ;-)
http://www.fas.org/irp/agency/army/tradoc/usaic/mipb/1998-1/JONESfnl.htm

cheers
Walter
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Posted: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 - 10:26 PM UTC
Thanks a lot Walter!

Look here

https://armorama.kitmaker.net/forums/171872&page=1

I think you could find very interesting

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Posted: Thursday, February 17, 2011 - 02:07 AM UTC

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Thanks a lot Walter!

Look here

https://armorama.kitmaker.net/forums/171872&page=1

I think you could find very interesting

that is very nice
im going to make the Czech one first cause there's more references of one tank and its a t-54 i think ill buy the tamiyas t55 with t54 conversion and hope to get firul tracks,karaya tow cables and some more stuff at go modelling.

Ill try to dig out more info on this outstanding white UN machines!

Cheers,Sven

Cheers
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Posted: Saturday, February 19, 2011 - 10:05 AM UTC
Hey guys,any more info?
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