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AFV Painting & Weathering
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Winsor & Newton Acrylics
Thivi11
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Posted: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 - 10:24 AM UTC
I'm using Tamiya acrylics to paint my model, and will be doign W&N Oil washes, my quesiton is... can I paint my tools, and accesories etc, with W&N Acrylics?

I see lots of people suggesting Vallejo acrylics, however I don't have a LHS too close by and the best is an art supply store, which doesn't sell Vallejo.

If not W&N Acrylics, what else is acceptable for items being added to model before a flat coat, and then weathering?
Spiderfrommars
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Posted: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 - 07:53 PM UTC
Hi Jaredt

As I told you, Acrylics paints don't are all the same. Acrylics for modeller (lifecolor, Valleyo, Gunze, Tamiya) are conceived to grip on plastic surfaces, common art acrylics paints don't.
In my opinion to prevent waste of time and money, the best thing to do is using just the right products and avoid odd experiments
But anyway, if you prime your models most likely also other paints can grip on.
If you need some alternative to Tamiya paints, you have just to buy a bottle of W&N avcrylic and make some trial.
To be honest I've never heard someone who use it, but anyway, you can try. At most you'll waste a few money on a W&N bottle...

Gunze, Tamiya, AIR Valleyo, are the best for the airbrush and less adequate for the brush. You have to dilute Gunze and Tamiya and you can put Air vallejo straight on your airbrush.

Instead you can use Valleyo MODEL color and Lifecolor paints for both, brush and airbrush (...of course you have to dilute them before)

Another solution, very common indeed, is to use the Acrylics with the AB, and enamel with the brush so you can use for exemple Humbrol or Testor enamels

Here you can find an useful guide about paint dilution

http://www.little-cars.co.uk/workbench49.pdf

Cheers
Thivi11
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Posted: Thursday, February 17, 2011 - 12:28 AM UTC
So painting with Tamiya acrylics and picking out details like tools etc, I can use enamels, and not need to worry about my washes etc affecting it?
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Posted: Thursday, February 17, 2011 - 12:55 AM UTC
I would have said that putting an oil wash, which is basically dirty thinners over oil paint is asking for trouble. You would either need to put an acrylic barrier between the enamel paint and oil wash or use the paints advised above, just order them on line if no one locally supplies them would be my advice.
pseudorealityx
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Posted: Thursday, February 17, 2011 - 01:16 AM UTC

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So painting with Tamiya acrylics and picking out details like tools etc, I can use enamels, and not need to worry about my washes etc affecting it?



I'm confused. Why can't you use the Tamiya acrylics on the tools?
Thivi11
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Posted: Thursday, February 17, 2011 - 02:35 AM UTC
I could I guess, just assumed I'd use that strictly in my AB.

I just got a set of Vallejo Panzer Aces colour that I had forgot I ordered. Might as well just order some more Vallejo. The place I ordered from was VERY quick so I'll do that.
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Posted: Thursday, February 17, 2011 - 03:12 AM UTC
I use Tamiya acrylics for all my little detail pieces. I find the key to avoid the skinning, even on small details is to add Tamiya thinner to the mix. I dip my brush into Tamiya thinner, get the excess off, then into the paint. The thinner keeps it from skinning, and if it does, going over with some more thinner will smooth it out.

I have a couple of Vallejo paints, but am not nearly as familiar with those. Best of luck.
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