As I understand it, Cyberhobby are Dragon reboxed kits? The one on the bottom is supposedly a kit from the 90's? I see a huge quality difference in the Cyberhobby one. Oh and I also got:
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Cyberhobby Schwerer Platformwagen w/PZIII
Dogwatch
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Posted: Tuesday, March 01, 2011 - 10:45 AM UTC
Over the past couple of weeks, I bought a few kits including the Cyberhobby Schwerer Platformwagen with Panzer III (railcar) and the older Dragon kit of the same rail car. Has anyone here built either of those? They look great, especially the Cyberhobby one.
As I understand it, Cyberhobby are Dragon reboxed kits? The one on the bottom is supposedly a kit from the 90's? I see a huge quality difference in the Cyberhobby one. Oh and I also got:
As I understand it, Cyberhobby are Dragon reboxed kits? The one on the bottom is supposedly a kit from the 90's? I see a huge quality difference in the Cyberhobby one. Oh and I also got:
bill_c
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Posted: Tuesday, March 01, 2011 - 10:57 AM UTC
Try this.
I presume the rail cars are the same, I doubt DML would've reworked that kit. It's pretty good, though you might want to upgrade the bumpers with brass ones. JBModel.eu has good versions from RB Model.
I presume the rail cars are the same, I doubt DML would've reworked that kit. It's pretty good, though you might want to upgrade the bumpers with brass ones. JBModel.eu has good versions from RB Model.
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Posted: Tuesday, March 01, 2011 - 07:52 PM UTC
Steve
Bill's right, it's a good set. Archer did a dry transfer decal for this one, too.
Jacob
Bill's right, it's a good set. Archer did a dry transfer decal for this one, too.
Jacob
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Posted: Wednesday, March 02, 2011 - 03:03 AM UTC
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Steve
Bill's right, it's a good set. Archer did a dry transfer decal for this one, too.
Jacob
Thats good to hear and Im looking forward to building it. Im primarily interested in the rail car, but the P3 looks like it might be fun. Whats the difference between dry transfer and the regular decal? I did get decals with the Cyberhobby kit.
EDIT Disregard the dry transfer question, I checked out Archers site and found the review Bill suggested involving Sherman dry transfers. Looks pretty cool but how hard is it to get the smaller transfers into areas where theres detail etc?
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Posted: Wednesday, March 02, 2011 - 11:10 AM UTC
The Schwerer Platformwagen is a nice enough kit. When you glue the frame together, put some weight on it and let it cure over night. If its not glues together straight, it will ruin placement on the tracks and cause problems later. The decals in mines almost fell apart when I dipped them in water. The Archer decals might not be a bad idea.
See my build HERE
See my build HERE
Dogwatch
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Posted: Thursday, March 03, 2011 - 04:09 AM UTC
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This gotta be the 4th or 5th repackage of that old wagon kit.
we want SSYMS. not this 4 axle little wagon
The SSYMS is available from several manufacturers but its considerably more expensive than the kit I bought. The one from The Tank Workshop is $118.
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Posted: Thursday, March 03, 2011 - 04:21 AM UTC
The heavy flachbettwagen if availible with ramp from Trumpeter 
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Posted: Thursday, March 03, 2011 - 04:43 AM UTC
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How hard is it to get the smaller transfers into areas where there's detail etc?
Archer pointed out to me that their wet decal transfer paper allows you to "pick up" the dry transfer and place it where you want a little easier. I recommend you go back to their site and look at this page for more help.
Regarding the three-axle flatcar, DML has not, to my knowledge, released a styrene version. Trumpeter's is quite pricey (over $100 in my LHS, though you do get a 38(t) included). LZ Models is selling a three-axle SSyl flatcar for 53 Euros.
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Posted: Thursday, March 03, 2011 - 06:57 AM UTC
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Quoted TextHow hard is it to get the smaller transfers into areas where there's detail etc?
Archer pointed out to me that their wet decal transfer paper allows you to "pick up" the dry transfer and place it where you want a little easier. I recommend you go back to their site and look at this page for more help.
Regarding the three-axle flatcar, DML has not, to my knowledge, released a styrene version. Trumpeter's is quite pricey (over $100 in my LHS, though you do get a 38(t) included). LZ Models is selling a three-axle SSyl flatcar for 53 Euros.
Thanks Bill. I bookmarked that page at Archers. Im going to keep my eye open for a cheap set of 'practice' transfers I can play with. I like the option of not having the extra steps to go through like gloss coating then dull coating after the decals are in place.
That one kit I got from Cyberhobby comes with a PZ III command version, which for $35 or so I thought was a steal. Im not sure if I can add some aftermarket things to it like a metal barrel, but Ill dig into that later. A several railcar dio (with one of the several engines available) would be really cool.
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Posted: Thursday, March 03, 2011 - 06:58 AM UTC
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The heavy flachbettwagen if availible with ramp from Trumpeter
Too much $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ LOL
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Posted: Thursday, March 03, 2011 - 11:40 PM UTC
Steve
Ironside once made a range of flatbeds, but compered to Dragon, they're a bit more crude, but with some work, they'll turn out ok. I'm not sure if they're still in production, or the price, but it might be an alternativ.
Jacob
Ironside once made a range of flatbeds, but compered to Dragon, they're a bit more crude, but with some work, they'll turn out ok. I'm not sure if they're still in production, or the price, but it might be an alternativ.
Jacob
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Posted: Friday, March 04, 2011 - 02:50 AM UTC
Dudes, the LZ Models alternative is really worth looking into. The shipping from the Czech Republic isn't bad, either.
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Posted: Friday, March 04, 2011 - 04:54 AM UTC
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Dudes, the LZ Models alternative is really worth looking into. The shipping from the Czech Republic isn't bad, either.
Those kits look like they build up nice on their site. They are holding off bringing out the heavy flatcar for a bit since Trumpeter just came out with theirs. Bookmarked that site. Thanks again, Jim.
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Posted: Friday, March 04, 2011 - 07:57 AM UTC
Reviewed sometime this weekend I hope.
Jim
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Posted: Friday, March 04, 2011 - 10:57 AM UTC
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Over the past couple of weeks, I bought a few kits including the Cyberhobby Schwerer Platformwagen with Panzer III (railcar) and the older Dragon kit of the same rail car. Has anyone here built either of those? They look great, especially the Cyberhobby one.
As I understand it, Cyberhobby are Dragon reboxed kits? The one on the bottom is supposedly a kit from the 90's? I see a huge quality difference in the Cyberhobby one. Oh and I also got:
Cyber Hobby is part of Dragon. Their "Orange Box" kits are reissues of older Dragon products at lower prices. Usually, a few improved parts are included, often newer tracks. Many kits include a figure set as well.
Cyber Hobby also issues current kits with modified parts for specialty variants of better known vehicles. These "White Box" kits are limited editions at premium prices, and customers often scramble to get them. A few have even appreciated in value over time (like the DAK Tiger I kit).
They also offer some stock Dragon Kits in Cyber Hobby boxes for no apparent reason.
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