Looks really nice...
It seems AA focused on Challies lately. For additional pics visit Accurate Armour
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New AA Challenger (Op Telic) conversion
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Posted: Saturday, September 06, 2003 - 07:20 PM UTC
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Posted: Saturday, September 06, 2003 - 10:17 PM UTC
Mario you seem to be right, but it seems the are updating alot of Trumpeter kits. I'd like to get the Op Telic conversion but right now there is enough to get for my current projects. AA's Challi looks good, and it seems to offer more than Tamiya has done with their GW2 updates!!! STUG
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Posted: Saturday, September 06, 2003 - 11:09 PM UTC
they arnt updating their chally kits,
they will soon be releasing gw2 upgrades of their bradley and m113 kits,
mainly looks to me like the old kits with modern us stowage and iff panels thrown in.
but they dont look bad painted up, check out the tamiya site for pics.
cheers
joe
they will soon be releasing gw2 upgrades of their bradley and m113 kits,
mainly looks to me like the old kits with modern us stowage and iff panels thrown in.
but they dont look bad painted up, check out the tamiya site for pics.
cheers
joe
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Posted: Saturday, September 06, 2003 - 11:09 PM UTC
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AA's Challi looks good, and it seems to offer more than Tamiya has done with their GW2 updates!!!
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didn't realise that Tamiya were doing any updates to their Challenger kit ?
I believe stugiif is refering to the M113A2 and M2A2, which were recently updated.
You can find pictures of these updates at the tamiya website. I think it is www.tamiya.com
greetz
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Posted: Sunday, September 07, 2003 - 03:02 AM UTC
Howdy Maki!
Yes, the AA Challenger2 Op. Telic upgrade set does look good indeed. I have already placed my order (two weekends ago) when I started my whole 'Chally build-up' thingie.
My only concern with the conversion, as manufactured by AA, is the 'sand' skirts. These are actullay moulded to the Chobham applique armour as one piece (wish they hadn't of done that). I haven't decided if they look [i]real]/i] enough for me. I have participated in a couple of threads regarding this very subject. Another member 'Skii' built a wonderful Challenger 2 making his own skirts that turned out very well indeed (just not sure if I can duplicate his fine skirt work ). Additionally, there was some discussion originally whether they were made of rubber or canvas (the latter is correct).
Sooooooooo, I will wait until I have the conversion set in my greedy little hands and decide then if they will 'pass muster'.
Regards,
Tread.
Yes, the AA Challenger2 Op. Telic upgrade set does look good indeed. I have already placed my order (two weekends ago) when I started my whole 'Chally build-up' thingie.
My only concern with the conversion, as manufactured by AA, is the 'sand' skirts. These are actullay moulded to the Chobham applique armour as one piece (wish they hadn't of done that). I haven't decided if they look [i]real]/i] enough for me. I have participated in a couple of threads regarding this very subject. Another member 'Skii' built a wonderful Challenger 2 making his own skirts that turned out very well indeed (just not sure if I can duplicate his fine skirt work ). Additionally, there was some discussion originally whether they were made of rubber or canvas (the latter is correct).
Sooooooooo, I will wait until I have the conversion set in my greedy little hands and decide then if they will 'pass muster'.
Regards,
Tread.
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Posted: Sunday, September 07, 2003 - 05:50 AM UTC
Tread
Thanks for the kind words, but don't be put off making your own skirts, actually it was suprisingly easy - the hard part was thinkin it up lol!
Cut out 2 sets resembling the skirts shapeout of 0.5mm plastic card, slicing them at intervals to resemble the 'pleats' then just held them very briefly over a flame to soften and warp them, then it was just a case of gluing them to the armour.
Then you can add very small pieces of card to create straps/buckles.
BTW that Accurate Armour set looks the business - I only wish that had been around at the start - I just didn't have the patience lol !!!
John
Thanks for the kind words, but don't be put off making your own skirts, actually it was suprisingly easy - the hard part was thinkin it up lol!
Cut out 2 sets resembling the skirts shapeout of 0.5mm plastic card, slicing them at intervals to resemble the 'pleats' then just held them very briefly over a flame to soften and warp them, then it was just a case of gluing them to the armour.
Then you can add very small pieces of card to create straps/buckles.
BTW that Accurate Armour set looks the business - I only wish that had been around at the start - I just didn't have the patience lol !!!
John
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Posted: Sunday, September 07, 2003 - 06:02 AM UTC
Edit - Sorry Tread - I see you've already ordered them - wise choice, they do look stunning with the finer detail.
Good luck with your Chally m8 (you lucky thing you)
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Posted: Sunday, September 07, 2003 - 12:57 PM UTC
Howdy Skii,
Thx for the creative input mate! I've been giving this 'sand' skirt thingie wayyyyyy too much mental time lately. Mainly because I've been trying to figure out a substitute material that I can use that would simulate it 'spot on' (or the closest facimile thereof ). I have been trying to come up with something that would give the impression of flexibility and movement like your 'softened' plasticard treatment does............................................................................still nothing.
I'm sure I will not be happy with what's provided by AA (fact is, I don't know about U, but I always notice those 'store bought' clumps of stowage, and can always pick out 'pre-made' piece's when I attend and personally judge model shows. That's not to say there's anything wrong with that, just that, I can tell when the bloke's stuck a few 'store-bought's' on there for times sake... ) so, I will most probably decide to simply cut it off and fabricate my own mess.
I think I'll try your method and see what developes. If the results are anything like what I experienced using candle pariffin to simulate ice.........I'll be a very happy camper!
Tread.
Thx for the creative input mate! I've been giving this 'sand' skirt thingie wayyyyyy too much mental time lately. Mainly because I've been trying to figure out a substitute material that I can use that would simulate it 'spot on' (or the closest facimile thereof ). I have been trying to come up with something that would give the impression of flexibility and movement like your 'softened' plasticard treatment does............................................................................still nothing.
I'm sure I will not be happy with what's provided by AA (fact is, I don't know about U, but I always notice those 'store bought' clumps of stowage, and can always pick out 'pre-made' piece's when I attend and personally judge model shows. That's not to say there's anything wrong with that, just that, I can tell when the bloke's stuck a few 'store-bought's' on there for times sake... ) so, I will most probably decide to simply cut it off and fabricate my own mess.
I think I'll try your method and see what developes. If the results are anything like what I experienced using candle pariffin to simulate ice.........I'll be a very happy camper!
Tread.
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Posted: Monday, September 08, 2003 - 12:32 PM UTC
........Gee, I hope I didn't step on anyone's toes with the "store-bought" comment......
Didn't mean any harm.
Didn't mean any harm.