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Posted: Sunday, March 20, 2011 - 08:42 AM UTC
anyone???








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Posted: Sunday, March 20, 2011 - 08:44 AM UTC
looks like a leopard or a leclerc.
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Posted: Sunday, March 20, 2011 - 08:45 AM UTC
There was a thread on this not too long ago, I believe some speculated it was some sort of larger caliber almost artillery-like prototype based on the Abrams platform. I'll look for the thread if somebody doesn't get to it before meh.
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Posted: Sunday, March 20, 2011 - 08:47 AM UTC
Here ya go
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Posted: Sunday, March 20, 2011 - 08:56 AM UTC
lower hull belongs for sure to a M1 tank



Where were taken the pics?
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Posted: Sunday, March 20, 2011 - 09:16 AM UTC
There is a tread over on MP.net about it aswell, some thought it may be a M1A3 prototype?
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Posted: Sunday, March 20, 2011 - 09:32 AM UTC
Thanks guys!
Mauro-its a screen shot from a video clip!
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Posted: Sunday, March 20, 2011 - 11:37 AM UTC
It almost looks as if its a leclerc turret mounted on an abrams hull, so im going to call it a Labrams
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Posted: Sunday, March 20, 2011 - 12:39 PM UTC
Strv.122 Swedish?
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Posted: Sunday, March 20, 2011 - 02:07 PM UTC


It's an Abrams hull with an prototype turret. That's all, really!

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Posted: Sunday, March 20, 2011 - 03:00 PM UTC
Maybe it is a LeChallbrams????


Sometimes you just have to shake your head and wonder, Jim.
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Posted: Monday, March 21, 2011 - 08:01 AM UTC
This is one of at least two prototypes called "Thumper".

Essentialy it is scalled down and simplified CATTB.

Here is second prototype with slightly different turret.



Here is CATTB:



Both are armed with what it seems a bit different variations of XM291 smoothbore gun with interchangabale callibers from 120mm to 140mm.
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Posted: Monday, March 21, 2011 - 08:14 AM UTC
Wow! More smoke projectors than a KISS concert, and side skirts cut from Annie Oakley's fringed buckskin jacket...

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Posted: Monday, March 21, 2011 - 08:22 AM UTC
The lower part looks like a an american "M1 Abrams" tank, but also the turret looks a bit like the same vehicle.
The turret looks like "lenghtened"... but I think, the vehicle is one of the "M1 Abrams" tanks; but a special version. (perhaps a test-vehicle for enhanced stowage of ammunition (weight/moveable-ratio-tests) - see the "lenghtened" turret)
This looks very strange to me.

greetings...
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Posted: Monday, March 21, 2011 - 08:24 AM UTC
Now, I'm waiting to see who kit bashes it first...
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Posted: Monday, March 21, 2011 - 08:44 AM UTC

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Wow! More smoke projectors than a KISS concert, and side skirts cut from Annie Oakley's fringed buckskin jacket...



Smoke launchers were probably part of some sort of defence system.


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The lower part looks like a an american "M1 Abrams" tank, but also the turret looks a bit like the same vehicle.
The turret looks like "lenghtened"... but I think, the vehicle is one of the "M1 Abrams" tanks; but a special version. (perhaps a test-vehicle for enhanced stowage of ammunition (weight/moveable-ratio-tests) - see the "lenghtened" turret)
This looks very strange to me.



Do You read what people are writing?

This is an prototype for further M1 series development.

Turret was so big for enhanced protection and because it was armed with 140mm gun.

Besides this turret was only placed on standard M1 hull for tests, normally as in case of CATTB new hull but very similiar to the standard one, would be designed and builded.

I had somewhere official documents about CATTB development, besides turret hull there was also new, strenghtened because of 140mm gun.
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Posted: Monday, March 21, 2011 - 07:15 PM UTC

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Do You read what people are writing?



Sorry for my mistake! I missed this part while reading.

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Posted: Monday, March 21, 2011 - 10:13 PM UTC
Thanks a lot Damian

this is the original video. Pics were taken in Ohio

http://defensetech.org/2011/01/27/name-that-mystery-tank/

these are some treads about it

http://www.tanknutdave.com/forum/19-guess-the-tracked-vehicle/400-something-interesting-i-found

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?192625-M1A3-prototype

larger pics

http://armaduraxx1.blogspot.com/2011/01/abrams-m1a3.html


if you wanted to find out other references,at the moment the tank on the net is improperly called

M1A3 prototype

or, as Damian has already told us

CATTB
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Posted: Monday, March 21, 2011 - 10:51 PM UTC
I want to see this in plastic. Who's with me?
Spiderfrommars
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Posted: Monday, March 21, 2011 - 11:13 PM UTC

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I want to see this in plastic. Who's with me?



Matt, to be honest i don't like kit of protypes. Usually they are too clean for my tastes and in my opinion there are few possibilities to set they in interesting dioramas.

I don't like either paper panzers.
If i want to depict something unreal (or almost unreal) I'll prefere doing a sci fi model

Anyway, I understand your point of view
The tank has a really impressive and "attractive" shape. It seems a M1a1 more aggressive. A sort of huge bad "stealth" tank

cheers

DamianR
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Posted: Tuesday, March 22, 2011 - 04:51 AM UTC
Oh US had many more prototypes and projects for M1A3/M1 Block III or completely new vehicle.

Some concept drawings are in Richard Hunnicutt book "Abrams A History Of The American Main Battle Tank volume 2".
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Posted: Tuesday, March 22, 2011 - 10:48 AM UTC

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I want to see this in plastic. Who's with me?



Who is stopping you? Grab a bunch of Evergreen plastic and build one. As for myself, I have no time for a prototype like this.
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