Can anyone point me at a image of a paint chip or a vehicle so I can tell what SCC 15 was like.
I've booked at Mike Starmers online instructions and mixed some humbrol colours and they come out as quite a dark green. But he also says that you can use straight Humbrol 150 to represent dyed tilts. Now 150 is much lighter than my mixing attempts and a lot more olive green. I'm not entirely sure what he means by dyed tilts - does it mean faded in sunlight?
I have a Churchill, Universal Carrier, 6 pdr and Cromwell that all need SCC 15 treament. I would buy the White Ensign ready mixed but they are still out of stock after several months with no idea of when it will be back.
Cheers,
Nigel
Cheers,
Nigel
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SCC 15 - Paint Chip?
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Posted: Friday, April 08, 2011 - 07:44 AM UTC
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Posted: Friday, April 08, 2011 - 10:39 AM UTC
Hi
I don't know how accurate it is but Vallejo list their Model Air 71.020 German Green as a match for SSC 15.
Paul
I don't know how accurate it is but Vallejo list their Model Air 71.020 German Green as a match for SSC 15.
Paul
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Posted: Friday, April 08, 2011 - 10:53 PM UTC
I seen plenty of recipies. The one for Vallejo I have seen most is 924 and 988 mixed in equal quantities.
It's not recipies I'm short of, it's not knowing what the end result should look like.
Cheers,
Nigel
It's not recipies I'm short of, it's not knowing what the end result should look like.
Cheers,
Nigel
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Posted: Sunday, April 10, 2011 - 12:51 AM UTC
Hi
Unless you are trying to depict a brand new fresh from the factory item I wouldn't get too involved in the old "Whats the corret colour argument"
Military paints did't keep there colour for very long weathering, dust and even sun light soon changed the original colour, I would go with something like Revell ***65 Bronze Green which would be close to what you are looking for.
My colour choices are
Early War USA - Vallejo Model Colour US Olive Drap
Late War USA - Tamiya Olive Drab
Early War UK - Ravell 65 Bronze Green
Late War UK- Vallejo Model Air Olive Drab
But every one will have there own prefered mix
Paul
Unless you are trying to depict a brand new fresh from the factory item I wouldn't get too involved in the old "Whats the corret colour argument"
Military paints did't keep there colour for very long weathering, dust and even sun light soon changed the original colour, I would go with something like Revell ***65 Bronze Green which would be close to what you are looking for.
My colour choices are
Early War USA - Vallejo Model Colour US Olive Drap
Late War USA - Tamiya Olive Drab
Early War UK - Ravell 65 Bronze Green
Late War UK- Vallejo Model Air Olive Drab
But every one will have there own prefered mix
Paul
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Posted: Sunday, April 17, 2011 - 06:57 AM UTC
I appreciate that weathering and time will alter the colour.
What I'm struggling with is trying to find out what the colour the recipies are all trying to acheive.
For example Mike Starmer has these recipies for Humbrol and Tamiya
Humbrol 150, 159, 33 (5:5:2)
Humbrol 159, 33 (8:1)
Tamiya 61, 62, 3 (5:2:2)
I've tried each of these. The two humbrol mixes come up quite similar and too be honest quiet close to many out of the tin colours that I would be happy to use as an approximation with weathering.
But the Tamiya mix is significantly different - nothing like the same colour.
I'm just intrigued as to which is the correct one.
Cheers,
Nigel
What I'm struggling with is trying to find out what the colour the recipies are all trying to acheive.
For example Mike Starmer has these recipies for Humbrol and Tamiya
Humbrol 150, 159, 33 (5:5:2)
Humbrol 159, 33 (8:1)
Tamiya 61, 62, 3 (5:2:2)
I've tried each of these. The two humbrol mixes come up quite similar and too be honest quiet close to many out of the tin colours that I would be happy to use as an approximation with weathering.
But the Tamiya mix is significantly different - nothing like the same colour.
I'm just intrigued as to which is the correct one.
Cheers,
Nigel
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Posted: Sunday, April 17, 2011 - 11:25 AM UTC
I'm not sure if it is available where you live, but Rustoleum offers super-flat paint in green. It is almost a exact match to Revell's bronze green. Spray some in a cup and spot away.
nheather
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Posted: Monday, April 18, 2011 - 01:59 AM UTC
Bronze Green is for very late WWII, more likely post-war. A different colour to SCC 15.
These two pictures that I have taken from this forum illustrate my point
Both excellent models, both beyond my capabilities.
But they show two distinctly different SCC 15 colours.
The first is much lighter, more yellow. This is similar to what I get if I follow Mike Starmers Tamiya mix.
The second is darker and more green. This is similar to what I get if I follow Mike Starmers Humbrol mix.
Can anyone comment on which of these is the more accurate representation of SCC 15.
Cheers,
Nigel
These two pictures that I have taken from this forum illustrate my point
Both excellent models, both beyond my capabilities.
But they show two distinctly different SCC 15 colours.
The first is much lighter, more yellow. This is similar to what I get if I follow Mike Starmers Tamiya mix.
The second is darker and more green. This is similar to what I get if I follow Mike Starmers Humbrol mix.
Can anyone comment on which of these is the more accurate representation of SCC 15.
Cheers,
Nigel
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Posted: Friday, April 22, 2011 - 08:47 PM UTC
Nigel,
I've always thought that SCC15 was the British attempt at replicating US olive drab, so when equipment sent from America was modified-repaired (the Sherman Firefly springs to mind. When the modified turrets were re-mounted was the whole tank re-srayed SCC15 or just the turret leaving the hull the original OD?) it could be painted in the same (or very similar) shade of colour (and the vehicles built in Britain would also look the same) that was generic and didn't have to be shipped across the Atlantic.
Ergo (I like this word. It don't get used nearly enough ) SCC15 should be (in my mind) very, very similar to OD assuming both colours are freshly applied
I've always thought that SCC15 was the British attempt at replicating US olive drab, so when equipment sent from America was modified-repaired (the Sherman Firefly springs to mind. When the modified turrets were re-mounted was the whole tank re-srayed SCC15 or just the turret leaving the hull the original OD?) it could be painted in the same (or very similar) shade of colour (and the vehicles built in Britain would also look the same) that was generic and didn't have to be shipped across the Atlantic.
Ergo (I like this word. It don't get used nearly enough ) SCC15 should be (in my mind) very, very similar to OD assuming both colours are freshly applied
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Posted: Friday, April 22, 2011 - 10:01 PM UTC
Thats why I like the Vallejo Model Air and Tamiya Olive Drab Combo, they are very close but not an exact match, so with something like a firefly I paint the hull with one and the turret with the other.
Paul
Paul