This was one of my latest kits, 1/35 Trumpeter SAM SA-6 Gainful.

Except from a trunk in the rear, the kit was build out of the box. I used a local handicraft paint, mixed to match the colors of today Czech army scheme, and diluted with alcohol. Masked using 3m tape, and after all a coat of flat varnish.

Several oil washes come next, followed by drybrushing.
The mud is done using a mix of plaster, varnish, sand, and paint, aplied with an old brush.

Here is the thing:

Nice looking Gainful. Since Trumpeter came out with this kit what, 5 years ago or so, I have been waiting for the Straight Flush system to go with it. Oh well. Still waiting.

Roy

Thats a helluva nice finish for handicraft paints (what brand?). The weathering is great too- the wet mud is really something.

I may note a few things, I hope you do not mind it.
The rockets of the type of models: 3M9ME their noses, gray, white is for you, but in later versions 3M9M3 typical.
The live missile nozzle reddish purple in color and not red.
The reds are not flowing into air missiles, only the cap, do you transport it (and the rear ends of wings as well).
The missiles are thin strips of yellow, various indications of where and by what means they can be fixed (9T227 ZIL-157, ZIL-131 2T7).
Gray missile they really exist, you will find pictures of the WWP publication.
So the vehicle never gets muddy!
Up to the side, but the Stand (Part artillery) on the fly locked, locked.
Puddle of mud in the middle are never started, follow the goal, only to start a standing position, installed for free!
The missiles there may incorporate a number of trees, branches, and therefore can not be so driven.
Then it is worth a little look, read, ask, because unfortunately this is so, although spectacular, but it's not real.
Realistic one in the mud.

With great respect: Gabor Juhasz.

Nice looking Gainful!

Happy Modelling, -zon

Hmm, this SAM looks very ugly. I think, it's too much mud.
And the Czech Army roundel is not correct.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:BVP-2_military_parade_Prague.jpg

Andreas

Audren!

I for one really like your model. Modelling is about fun and enjoyment, and I can see on your model that you had that! I dont care about "unrealistic postion", wrong nose color, roundel etc. Maybe the vehicle was parked there? We can NEVER say that something is unrealistic. And about the mud: Every vehicle can get that dirty! Its just a question about the environment its moving. How can we say mud is unrealistic? Mud is about personal taste, so one will like it others not, but its never (almost) "unrealistic".

Example about how this could have happened:

http://englishrussia.com/index.php/2007/09/17/the-stuck-tank/

Back to the model:

I like the colors and the cool presentation. Very well done.

Keep them coming!

Regards,

Andreas

It really look like a tank, but it's a tracked anti-aircraft missile boot loaders.
It is an instrument, take care of you (should also take care of).
I wrote, not fiction.
Situation is not turned over thread (because it is forbidden!) in the artillery.
Busy sessions in the space allotted to the first level with yourself and your vehicle's compass for the leading vehicle in itself (it's a mud puddle is unlikely, there are only so because of the interesting things művelhet rocket startup).
Nice work on the model itself, but knowing the application of the provisions of this weapon, is not realistic.

Hi Audren,

thanks for sharing your SA-6. You don't see this model come up very often on the forums. Apart from the technical issues stated by Gabor I will comment about some modelling aspects.

The first appearence of the scenes proves really well. But some aspects you can try to improve in future.

-When a vehicle drives to wet mud the wheels and suspension get wet too. Here you used dry mud on the wheels?
-The contrast between the mud and the (very clean) upperdeck is too much. Maybe you can try to add some washes, or little dus or maybe some subtile colour variations.
-What is the knocked down tree doing in the scene? In a good scene every aspect or detail has to make sense to the viewer. Not an easy task though!

Just some little thoughts, but don't forget - it's all about the fun!!

Hi for every one!!!

First of all, thanks for all the posts, discuss the job we done always increase our knowlege and bring new ideas or diferent view points.

One think I need to say, my intention never was do a model stucked in the mud, but my youngest daugther steep up in a card box where the model is drying (some kind of heater) and broke the tracks and the suspension arms (both sides), fortunately, the launch pad and missiles are not attached. I had already put some mud, but need increse the quantity to hide the various cracks.

After that I decide to stuck the kit, and weather him even more.


Some observations: I sprayed the mud from an old brush direct below the kit to upwards (I think this is the way that the things going on in real world, so, did so). Because of that the upper hull looks more clean, the mud simply attach the vertical surfaces, but not "fly" over the edges towards the upper parts. Really lacks some dust in upper parts.
From what I read, the missiles with the gray nose are dummy or trainning missiles, the reals are white, if this is correct today or is no more so, I unaware.
I see the Czech Republic roundel is wrong, but he's the come with the kit, and I choose use then instead of painting one, and one side I put upside down mistakenly.

Jurjen get's some interesting things, I "wet" the tracks, but forgot the road wheels, an error that I only observed when I put the photos in foruns. This was properly corrected now.

Jurjen get's some interesting things, I "wet" the tracks, but forgot the road wheels, an error that I only observed when I put the photos in foruns. This was properly corrected now.
The tree was an "out ball". I wanted to add some personal touch, some "charm", but miss the point..... maybe next time!

About how realistic is or not, think with me, If I put two M1 Abhram's stacked one over other in an crater. Certtainly it will look unrealistic, but if I swap the M1 by two T-34's, the scene don't look unrealistic because this was happened. But, the same situation with the M1's it's not all impossible, because similar things occur before, If it's not impossible, why should be unrealistic? You follow me?
What I whant to say is in war times, strange things happen. We see videos, fotos, read histories about things we never can imagine can occur, from WWI to Iraq.
I loosed a pic of a German bomber stucked into a building, 70% or more of the plane was straight outside the building. Impossible? No, very hard to happen, but not impossible, so a vignete like that will not be unrealistic.

I don't based what I do in any image that I saw, but In a thing that can happen! Independently of how the vehicle suppose to be used, or where to be used, or what kind of terrain or place, (think with me), in a war, you do waht you need to do to win! In some cases this include do ilogical things, or uneven situations happens.
Think about all you see about war and military equipment, Think deeply, and reflect, Is an SAM launcher in the middle of mud so unrealistic?


At last but not least, here in brazil, modeling is not a popular hobby like others countrys, brazilian modellers have many dificulties to fight against to do our hobby. My city don't have any model shop, the closest hobby shop to my city is two hours driving, and the prices are higher than the Internet stores.
And because of this, we some times have dificult to do our works, lack of paints, materials, tools, in most of the cases all we need is imported. And if we don't have how to import, things get worse, and we need to use what we have.


SO, thanks for the advising and suggests, some are realy usefull, others ....

And, modelling is all about fun, if you don't have fun, you need to do something different.


PS: Sorry by the english erros, my knowledge in this language is little.

I apologize, I did not want to hurt me with what I wrote.
Here is the anti-aircraft missile system is still in service.
I wrote, the real use of technology, standards based.
My father taught this system, so I know.
Quite a lot of things happen in war, but this is not a war situation (I hope I never will), the northern neighbors in the same system and standards are applied.
If you have questions about this or any other Soviet system (within the defense system) can help you.
Missiles: There are teacher-practitioner model weight, it is externally almost identical to the original, but it has no engine, combat system and other parts, these are also written in yellow on the intended purpose, the tip is plated, painted red.
Two versions of the missile was exported, both 3M9, however, they develop their systems have been developed, there is "ME", this gray plastic nose, hiding the wiring of two ribs on the stem is thicker rear wing is also mounted in the trunk.
There is the "M3", it is more modern, younger, its nose is white, smaller and thinner the wire cover, rear wing side can be so soon be fitted with a chest.
Each of the two rockets (a thin wrapper) fragile, so protect it, why not go off-shoot (you might accidentally tilt the beams) in the artillery, trees branches protected by a special grid at the back of a parking structure will be.
I've just does not make sense to rotate it because the tracking station (1S91) is only stationary, vízszintezve be put into service, those parts of the antennas pointed out, rotate and open the antennas off (the antenna system of hundreds of pounds).
You do not about these because there is no system, this system with you.
However, there is internet, and this is the forum where you can ask, you can earn.
Modeling because it belongs also to the more knowing a thing, as much as possible to the original adequate and similar things create.

Sincerely, Gabor Juhasz.
Hungary

Gabor Juhasz, no need to apologize, the previous post is more to justify some things, and do some feed back to other members.
I did not whant to be rude, some things that i say is more to alleviate, nothing personal. In some foruns here from Brasil I don't post my works more, because some members only do bad critics, doesn't matter how the work looks like they always find something to criticize, and I'm up to this!

Foruns need to be place to swap of ideas, and conversation, I was glad to know your father is member of the army (my own father is former tank driver in the Brazilian army).
With people of all around the world in this forun, some times is hard to make himself understood (culture diferences)

Now you got a problem, I realy apreciate soviet like equipment, and you invite me me to question you, ho guy, I realy will!!! If you can help me, I will love, thanks!!!!

Anything, anytime, if I can do everything to help you, my friend!
Regards, Gábor.

Gabor, thanks a milion for sharing your competence.

For my next build if i have some doubts I think I'll iterpellate you

cheers