Still perplexed about what British colour SCC 2 should look like.
I find it odd, given that it was a standard colour before SCC 15 was introduced in 1944, that I can find so few references to it.
So here are a couple of suggestions, both quite different
Which if any would you say is the best representation.
I'm not too bothered about being exact, just being in the right ballpark.
Cheers,
Nigel
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SCC 2 - What should it look like
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Posted: Friday, April 22, 2011 - 03:28 AM UTC
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Posted: Friday, April 22, 2011 - 06:25 AM UTC
Hi
Vellejo have ther 71024 Khaki Brown Listed as a match for SCC 2 and that colour is closer to the right hand one in your post but a touch lighter.
This is a quick brush painted swatch but it is quite close to what it looks like in real life
Hope this has been of help
Paul
Vellejo have ther 71024 Khaki Brown Listed as a match for SCC 2 and that colour is closer to the right hand one in your post but a touch lighter.
This is a quick brush painted swatch but it is quite close to what it looks like in real life
Hope this has been of help
Paul
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Posted: Friday, April 22, 2011 - 08:54 AM UTC
Thanks for the reply - veryy interesting.
My two swatches are as follows
Right - Tamiya XF-52 Flat Earth as given in their instructions for the Centaur
Left - Mix of Revell 84 and 86 (Ratio 16:5) as suggested by Mike Starmer on the MAFA.net site
In theory Mike Starmer's mixes should be spot on as he is his an expert in this field and research is very well regarded.
But I have never seen any vehicle presented in this chocolate brown colour either in document or museum exhibit.
I have seen vehicles in a caramel like colour similar to Tamiya XF-52 and your Vallejo colour at Bovington Tank Museum (a Convenantor as I recall) but when I spoke to the museum historian he was unable to confirm whether that was SCC 2 or even whether it was an accurate colour at all.
But I am loathed to say that Mike Starmers mix isn't accurate given the amount of research he has put into it. I may have made an error with the mix but both the Revell colours are darker than the Tamiya and Vallejo in their own right.
Incidently, where did you find the Vallejo mapping to real colours - I have been thinking of giving Vallejo a go because I have heard great reviews but I'm put off becuase I would have to mail order and unsure which of their colours would be suitable for my needs.
This is the Covenantor at Bovington
Mike Starmer's info can be found here
http://www.mafva.net/PDF/BritishCamouflage3.pdf
SCC 2 is described as 'Rich Dark Brown with a hint of Khaki'
which I must admit, does not describe the Tamiya, Vallejo or Bovington Covenantor.
Cheers,
Nigel
My two swatches are as follows
Right - Tamiya XF-52 Flat Earth as given in their instructions for the Centaur
Left - Mix of Revell 84 and 86 (Ratio 16:5) as suggested by Mike Starmer on the MAFA.net site
In theory Mike Starmer's mixes should be spot on as he is his an expert in this field and research is very well regarded.
But I have never seen any vehicle presented in this chocolate brown colour either in document or museum exhibit.
I have seen vehicles in a caramel like colour similar to Tamiya XF-52 and your Vallejo colour at Bovington Tank Museum (a Convenantor as I recall) but when I spoke to the museum historian he was unable to confirm whether that was SCC 2 or even whether it was an accurate colour at all.
But I am loathed to say that Mike Starmers mix isn't accurate given the amount of research he has put into it. I may have made an error with the mix but both the Revell colours are darker than the Tamiya and Vallejo in their own right.
Incidently, where did you find the Vallejo mapping to real colours - I have been thinking of giving Vallejo a go because I have heard great reviews but I'm put off becuase I would have to mail order and unsure which of their colours would be suitable for my needs.
This is the Covenantor at Bovington
Mike Starmer's info can be found here
http://www.mafva.net/PDF/BritishCamouflage3.pdf
SCC 2 is described as 'Rich Dark Brown with a hint of Khaki'
which I must admit, does not describe the Tamiya, Vallejo or Bovington Covenantor.
Cheers,
Nigel
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Posted: Friday, April 22, 2011 - 09:08 AM UTC
Hi
I got the Vallejo colours from the chart on their PDF
http://www.acrylicosvallejo.com/pdf_web/MA_CC071_rev07.pdf
Paul
I got the Vallejo colours from the chart on their PDF
http://www.acrylicosvallejo.com/pdf_web/MA_CC071_rev07.pdf
Paul
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Posted: Saturday, April 23, 2011 - 01:17 AM UTC
Many thanks for the link.
Cheers,
Nigel
Cheers,
Nigel