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LAV fallujah operation al-fajr
seel98
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Posted: Thursday, May 05, 2011 - 01:18 AM UTC
Trying to get a good representation of all the AVF's in Fallujah during Al-Fajr. Did the LAV's have the up armor? I have been searching and the few photo's I have do not show any blast sheilds but I am not sure if they were really at Fallujah or just a pic showing the vehicle. Any suggestions would be great.
Frenchy
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Posted: Thursday, May 05, 2011 - 02:20 AM UTC
Just take a look at the picture here :
http://www.life.com/image/51630858
Considering the date it was taken, I guess this one was used during Operation Phantom Fury ...
HTH
Frenchy
http://www.life.com/image/51630858
Considering the date it was taken, I guess this one was used during Operation Phantom Fury ...
HTH
Frenchy
seel98
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Posted: Thursday, May 05, 2011 - 02:28 AM UTC
I was looking at that exact pic yesterday..so that doesn't have the upgraded armor sets that are out there correct? frenchy you are the Man, thank you.
Frenchy
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Posted: Thursday, May 05, 2011 - 02:33 AM UTC
I guess you're right (about the non upgraded LAV that is 
) No add-on armor and no turret shields.
I must say that pics showing the AFVs used during this operation are not that thick on the ground....
Frenchy
) No add-on armor and no turret shields.I must say that pics showing the AFVs used during this operation are not that thick on the ground....
Frenchy
seel98
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Posted: Thursday, May 05, 2011 - 03:58 AM UTC
is that a three toned camo paint job..i have a book that show's olive drab?? hmmm interesting.
13M201182
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Posted: Thursday, May 05, 2011 - 04:52 AM UTC
During Fallujah the LAV's did not have the armor applied to them. That 25 in particualr, looks like it was never even went through the SLEP as it has the narrow tires.
seel98
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Posted: Thursday, May 05, 2011 - 05:09 AM UTC
Ok thanks for the info..then i'll just build out of the box..what about color? three tone camo or olive drab?
13M201182
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Posted: Thursday, May 05, 2011 - 05:15 AM UTC
You could do 3 tone or even sand, there were a few of those running around. The single color green was used on the initial LAV A2's fresh out of the Depot. Enjoy your build!!! 
junglejim
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Posted: Thursday, May 05, 2011 - 05:38 AM UTC
There's a couple Concord books with some photos, don't have them handy but can check if intersted. There are early SLEP upgrades; gunner's sight with armored cover, Platt scissors mount and there might be a small external 'HUD' for the driver behind the driver's periscopes. Possibly the exhaust shroud. No additional armor at this time, and the wider tires were just coming into use. It's not OD either, 'NATO' green is closer, but as mentioned, only 3 color or sand.
Jim
Jim
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Posted: Thursday, May 05, 2011 - 12:16 PM UTC
WHAT?? no photos?
Frenchy
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Posted: Thursday, May 05, 2011 - 07:08 PM UTC
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WHAT?? no photos?
1st Battalion, 8th Marine Regiment, 1st Marine Division (MARDIV), patrol the streets of Al Fallujah, Al Anbar Province, Iraq, on Nov. 12, 2004, in LAVs (from Defenseimagery.mil) :
The one in the foreground is a LAV-L. It's barely noticeable but the LAV-25 in the background is fitted with the SLEP exhaust shroud (I can send you the Hi-Res picture if need be
)HTH
Frenchy
Frenchy
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Posted: Thursday, May 05, 2011 - 08:06 PM UTC
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that camo... Seen any other vehicle looked like that? Or more picture of this one?
Not sure it will help, but here's the picture that comes next in the LIFE gallery :
http://www.life.com/image/51630860
More LAV variants pics from LIFE :
http://www.life.com/image/51756433
http://www.life.com/image/51678756
http://www.life.com/image/3471863
HTH
Frenchy
seel98
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Posted: Friday, May 06, 2011 - 01:01 AM UTC
Yean can you send me that HI res pic. I am gonna build it almost exactly as its shown in that pic..thats the best pic i've seen of fallujah.
Frenchy
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Posted: Friday, May 06, 2011 - 01:20 AM UTC
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Yean can you send me that HI res pic. I am gonna build it almost exactly as its shown in that pic..thats the best pic i've seen of fallujah.
No problemo, I'll send it ASAP (= when I'm back home from work
)Frenchy
seel98
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Posted: Friday, May 06, 2011 - 02:24 AM UTC
awesome thank you!
junglejim
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Posted: Friday, May 06, 2011 - 03:51 AM UTC
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that camo... Seen any other vehicle looked like that? Or more picture of this one?
Nothing special about it, standard three color (green/brown/black) dusty, with rain spots on it.
Jim
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Posted: Friday, May 06, 2011 - 03:28 PM UTC
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could very well be, water washing off some of the mud and exposing patches of true colors.
However, noticed on the turret there's a patch of lighter shade of green? Looked like some kind of sprayed symbol?
the first vehicle (not the same one frenchy linked in the later post) also seemed to be well worn, rusts dripping off and such. Would of been a nice subject to build if there are more references
Like Jim said...it is just a dirty and dusty LAV 25 with some rain drop splatter and spotting. I don't think there is a symbol sprayed on the turret....if there is it looks like a green "Gingerbread Man"!!!
seel98
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Posted: Monday, May 09, 2011 - 04:29 AM UTC
so i have this book and it shows the LAV as a solid NATO green, am i seeing this correctly???? http://www.amazon.com/New-Dawn-Fallujah-Richard-Lowry/dp/1932714774/ref=sr_1_2?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1304954873&sr=1-2
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