Excuse me for asking a silly question... building my first ever 1:35 Scale model. Is it best to paint the wheels first then glue them onto the hull? Or should I just crack on and glue them on and then base spray everything?
I am building an Italeri 1:35 Tiger
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Krieg-Hammer
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Posted: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 - 11:19 AM UTC
Spiderfrommars
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Posted: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 - 11:47 AM UTC
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Excuse me for asking a silly question... building my first ever 1:35 Scale model. Is it best to paint the wheels first then glue them onto the hull? Or should I just crack on and glue them on and then base spray everything?
I am building an Italeri 1:35 Tiger
Many Thanks
Hi Rob
It depends on the subject. If wheels are simple and if they don't have black rubber rings you can try to paint the tank with the wheels mounted on
Otherwise if the wheels have multiple rows (that's your case) you should prime and paint them separately
In my humble opinion, painting the wheels separately is always better than painting all the parts together, but I have seen some (japanese) modellers who can manage to finish their models with wheels and tracks already mounted on
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18Bravo
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Posted: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 - 12:04 PM UTC
On other tanks, if you use a template, you might get by adding the wheels first. If you're painting by hand (and a Tamiya paint pen is great for this) it's far easier if they spin. If not, paint them before installing. You can always mask them when painting the rest of the model.
ltb073
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Posted: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 - 01:09 PM UTC
Hi Rob, I recently did 2 Tigers and I used white glue to hold the wheels on while I sprayed the kit with primer and paint. I was then able to remove the wheels to hand paint the rubber around the wheel. Then glued them all back on with a regular model glue 
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Posted: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 - 01:28 PM UTC
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but I have seen some (japanese) modellers who can manage to finish their models with wheels and tracks already mounted on
I do this all the time, when using kit supplied indy tracks.
Theres no right or wrong way .... Its what works best for you. And theres unfortunately only one way to find out what that is .....
See this link for an explanation on how I do this. This is a panzer IV, but Ive done it on both panthers and tigers before as well. Currently have a Jagdtiger in progress doing it with this method as well. If you can see it, you can paint it so it is possible to glue everything first.
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Posted: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 - 06:49 PM UTC
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Quoted Textbut I have seen some (japanese) modellers who can manage to finish their models with wheels and tracks already mounted on
I do this all the time, when using kit supplied indy tracks.
Theres no right or wrong way .... Its what works best for you. And theres unfortunately only one way to find out what that is .....
See this link for an explanation on how I do this. This is a panzer IV, but Ive done it on both panthers and tigers before as well. Currently have a Jagdtiger in progress doing it with this method as well. If you can see it, you can paint it so it is possible to glue everything first.
so Frank....YOU MUST BE JAPANESE!!
Joking aside, I agree wth you. There's no a right or a wrong way to do it
However I think that to paint tracks and wheels together it's necessary to be a quite skilled modeller as you are (That's no adulation it's only a constatation...). Maybe the other method could be easier for almost all the modellers (included me)
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Hi Rob, I recently did 2 Tigers and I used white glue to hold the wheels on while I sprayed the kit with primer and paint. I was then able to remove the wheels to hand paint the rubber around the wheel. Then glued them all back on with a regular model glue
That's another very clever method which I sometime use
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Krieg-Hammer
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Posted: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 - 08:00 PM UTC
I think it is the late version so no rubber rims around the wheels. From a previous 1:72 model I made, I found it very messy when glueing pre-painted wheels and tracks as the solvent glue attacked the paint! I want to avoid this next time. Or perhaps, the sections that receive the glue I do not paint?
18Bravo
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Posted: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 - 08:59 PM UTC
If that's the route you're going to go then yes. Either don't paint those areas, or paint them and them scrape the paint off/out of surfaces that will receive cement,
Plasticbattle
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Posted: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 - 11:00 PM UTC
Another method ..... get yourself some workable tracks and place tham after painting. Wheels and tracks can be painted seperately and all fixed in place when complete. AFV Club have reasonably priced tracks for a Tiger, or else you could go for the more expensive Friul, Modelkasten or MasterClub tracks.
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Posted: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 - 11:40 PM UTC
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. Or perhaps, the sections that receive the glue I do not paint?
Yes, that's it absolutely. You should mask the surfaces that will receive the glue or you shoud scrape the paint before gluing
You don't have a rubber rim but you have wheels placed on multiple rows, so if you paint all together them, back wheels and suspension arms can't be painted entirely....
I know, is a matter of taste. Maybe for many modellers that it doesn't matter because at the end, the unpainted parts will be almost invisible
But in my humble opinion ALL the model have to be painted, so for me that could be a flaw
Just my two cents anyway
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Krieg-Hammer
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Posted: Wednesday, May 18, 2011 - 05:20 AM UTC
Thank you very much for the feedback. I will be using the tracks supplied with the kit. Not going to steer off and buy custom pieces as yet. Here is the model on another forum. This is someone else that built it.
http://www.militarymodelling.com/forums/postings.asp?th=28820
http://www.militarymodelling.com/forums/postings.asp?th=28820
Krieg-Hammer
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Posted: Wednesday, May 18, 2011 - 07:05 PM UTC
Going to pick the project up again tonight. Just get the wheels and tracks glued on apart from the outer wheels for the time being. I'll cross the painting bridge when I come to it 
Krieg-Hammer
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Posted: Saturday, May 21, 2011 - 09:48 PM UTC
Glued one set of wheels and tracks onto one side minus the external wheels. Definitely cleaner gluing without paint getting in the way!
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