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Dragon M1A1
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Posted: Sunday, September 21, 2003 - 12:04 AM UTC
is this a good model saw it for like $17.00 in hobby shop worth it or Junk?
Also trumpter kit a little more have both trumpter kits
Marine and Americian so is it any good? (++) (++) (++) (++) (:-)
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Posted: Sunday, September 21, 2003 - 02:38 AM UTC
DML still does the best M1A1 OOB.
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Posted: Sunday, September 21, 2003 - 03:14 AM UTC
Thanks Rob will put it on hold TODAY (++) (++) (++)
More Oink for the money!!! (++) (++) (++)

Ps could this be used for the NEW WAR IRAQUI FREEDOM or too much updating involved?
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Posted: Sunday, September 21, 2003 - 10:00 AM UTC
Yes it could, be used, but it would have to have some minor updating. A unit built bustle extension would be the first thing I'd do, but not all units are using it so that is an option. I have some pics if you need them.

I am not sure how to replace the "mushrooms" on the blast panels but I think they need to be replaced to show them blanked out. You will also need to buy or make some IFF panels for the sides and rear of the turret and the ID panels for the front of the turret. Then you will have to come up with massive ammounts of stowage to add in, but that shouldn't be too hard, right? I think the only thing left would be the unit ID numbers.

Rob
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Posted: Sunday, September 21, 2003 - 10:12 PM UTC

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Yes it could, be used, but it would have to have some minor updating. A unit built bustle extension would be the first thing I'd do, but not all units are using it so that is an option. I have some pics if you need them.

I am not sure how to replace the "mushrooms" on the blast panels but I think they need to be replaced to show them blanked out. You will also need to buy or make some IFF panels for the sides and rear of the turret and the ID panels for the front of the turret. Then you will have to come up with massive ammounts of stowage to add in, but that shouldn't be too hard, right? I think the only thing left would be the unit ID numbers.

Rob


Thanks Rob I checked on the eduard site and they amke the panels in question as add-ons.
Going to use the AFV club tracks think they work? BTW did pick it up yesterday ripped the plastic off the box and fingers are itching to get at it. The lighting holes are the big mistake do you know of any aftermarket ones?
Those panels could also be made of sheet plastic strips now on to roof ID panel?


did find this site for some photos have not looked at Rob's motorpool but I remember I think he has some also.

try the linkhttp://ipmslondon.tripod.com/armourreferencearticles/id20.html
BroAbrams
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Posted: Monday, September 22, 2003 - 12:12 AM UTC
I also have some pics:
http://community.webshots.com/user/m1a1abrams
http://community.webshots.com/user/m1a1mbt

If you want to make it really accurate, there are lots of things you will want to add. Another good thing to add would be the springs that hold the fenders down. The Eduard set has some brackets that go on the fenders that the hold down spring attaches too. If you look through my pics you will see that there is a track link connector on each of the hold down springs. This is so that when the tanker wants to hold it up, he just wedges the connector between the fender and the hull. I will write more later but work beckons.

Rob
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Posted: Monday, September 22, 2003 - 12:41 AM UTC
Sgtreef,
You might want to check out a set of "Armour Track" treads for this kit. They come with resin sprocket wheels which have the correct lightening holes in them. I don't have any experience with these myself, but I have heard they are very nice. I am currently assembling a set for the Challenger 2 made by Armour Track and they look great, no ejector pin marks (unlike the AFV set which I have used) and they go together easily. You can find them at Discountmodels.com. (no connection, just a very satisfied customer)

Mike
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Posted: Monday, September 22, 2003 - 01:05 AM UTC
Holes are there to allow mud to escape and prevent the mud buildup from causing a thrown track, not for lightening the tank. A solid sprocket carrier would be preferable since it is easier to to drill out the holes and shape them with a circular file than to correct the incorrectly shaped holes.
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Posted: Monday, September 22, 2003 - 12:50 PM UTC
Thanks Armor fellows My hobby shop guy has the Tracks you mentioned Mike.
But I read that they are not really that great as comapred to say Fruil or AFV.But will check again
Rob you are already on my Favorite at Webshots.
thanks
And again thanks Rob G
Got you covered on those Holes saw what they did. (:-)
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