I'm tempted to make a diorama that shows ice. ICE.

- Does anyone have experience with this ?
- Would it be a nice idea to do a diorama campaign/ group build on the subject ? We could add ice as an X-factor for an already scheduled campaign. Maybe make this a voluntary X-factor (Y-factor ?) since not everyone wants this degree of complexity.

Suggestions ?

Jan

I once saw a dio which had ice cones that were made from transparant streched sprue.

Perhaps, since already seem to know Voss-chemie, you could experiment with transparant polyester resin??

Kris

Jan,

I don't know if this will help but on my website under the tips section you can find a technique on making ice from candlewax and icicles

Ice would be a COOL X-Factor. The campaign docet is filling up quick - I'd put in an official request as soon as 10 people show interest.

As far as execution - wax is so far the way to go. On ML there is a tiger who broke through ice.
I think Envar did a small tankette churning out of some ice and I wanna say he used wax too.
I've got links at work - I'll post'em later.

GeneralFailure:
Use parafin the stuff your mother used to seal the top for home made jelly

Try using silicone sealent, I used it in a sience project when I was 12. It looks a great deal like ice...

Ohh, and hey im new to this form, and to Armor moduling, I have been doing rc aircraft for years, and plastic aircraft when I was a kid. Ohh and I worked at a hobby shop through out high school.. =D

Welcome, Sofa.
Thanks for the hint.

Anyone interested in a dio campaign involving ICE in 2004 ?

Posibly we could do one over the winter battles of ww2? I would be interested.

Ohh and also there is this stuff made by wodland senes that you melt down for use for rivers in ho layouts.. all you have to do is have a difernt color behind it and I bet it will look like ice...

http://www.woodlandscenics.com/

go to senery than water on the menu.....

Hmm, a campaign in 2004. Ok starts 1/1/2004 ends 31/12/2004. Then I should be able to think of something and finish it #:-) #:-)

Kris

Abou this ice business. Number 1 stay away from the Woodlands Scenics stuff you melt to make water. Number 2, since no one answered my request about making waterfalls, I bought almost every type of "Golden" brand gel, paste and medium (gloss and matte, pourable to high solids) and intend to just flat out experiment with them for water, waterfalls, ice, etc. with and without color (white, ble, etc.) If it isn't a total disaster, I'll post it for everyone else to learn frm my mistakes.

Sealhead

I saw an excellent feature on ice at ML I think it was. It showed a tiger slipping through some ice on a river. The maker had cast a layer of white tinted clear resin about a half inch thick. then he took a hammer and broke it into large chunks. He built the base and the damn around the base for casting. He placed the model then poured in layers of clear resin. In the last layer he imbedded the chunks of white resin at odd angles and layed some flat around the edge. The effect was simply spectacular. I will try to find the link.

Rob

Update - It was Mig Jimenez, and it still impresses me:

http://missing-lynx.com/gallery/german/migtiger.htm

GREAT idea... be glad to join in that one... the ideas for testing are already brewing.... perhaps real water with a chiller?

!!! YES YES YES !!! but only when it's AFTER SEPTEMBER 2004... before september I'm gonna spend my time building Market Garden related items.

OK Buddies,

Who's signing up for a "campaign on ice", starting in September 2004 ?

I suggest a rather small diorama, minimum postcard size (10 x 15 cm) to maximum letter size (21 x 30 cm).
There has to be Ice in it.

The rest is open for discussion. Maybe just maximum three figures, vehicles allowed but not essential. Timing WWII, somewhere in Europe ?

How does that taste ?

I recommend this book to any modeler who wants to create bases for models. It has an in-depth step by step article on how to make a waterfall. Worth every penny.

On a side note, the Ice thing sounds cool. I'm in.

Patrick

i am interested in participating in a campaign involving ice stuff. It is something i ve tried earlier with 50 - 50 succes but i am also willing to experiment again a lot and make it better so you have one participant here!!!Waiting for more news

This is the dio with the Tiger that Rob described :


Does anyone know of other ICE dio's to make our mouth water ?

So far we have interest/reservations for :

MAJOR_GOOSE
PLMP110
Eagle
KFMagee
GeneralFailure
and possible interest by
Sofa
Crossbow

Who's joining ?

man this dio is very good looking , i hope i ll make it to do something so good.Though my 20 years of modelling and almost 15 years of doing military modelling and 1/35 dio's i havent done much with ice and believe now is the time.
So i Am Joining the campaign and waiting for more details . I believe its good to start on 1/1/2004 and keep about 8-9 months .just suggesting .
Waiting to hear from you guys .

Ok, I am tempted, count me in

wow Ronny excellent photos and superb artwork on the dio . Is it yours? and if so would you be kind enough to tell us some about the ice technique and the materials used?

Goose,

I wish , no it is a Diorama made by Charles Reading.

If you go to my website (click banner) and to the tips section, then you can see a description on how to make the Ice.

BTW, some thumbnaild don't seem to work, but the articles and corresponding pictures do

ok thanks for the info and i ll look up to it. I ve been experimenting with transparent silicone that i use for general purpose but still trying to find a good stuff to mix with and make this semi transparent look of iced snow .
thanks again .

Woodland Scenics Realistic Water and candle parafin in action.
I just poured the hot wax straight from the candle on the dio and mixed it quickly with a toothpick to get shattered effect. This technique goes well for thin ice. The snow on ice is hairspray plus food soda and baby powder.



Toni

Roadkill i have to say that the articles in your site are very usefull and will be a source that i ll look up every now and then.Thanks for the info .