First post so be gentle.
I am just getting back into models after a fifteen year break and want to start with a diorama. I love the compact design of the TKS tankette and thought it would look good with some gebirgsjager handscher troops supporting it in an action pose.
Terrain will be dusty and rocky road like parts of the balkans, I will try and get the hornet handschar heads to add to the dragon gebirgsjager. I would like to depict an interned german TKS 20mm with a crew member interacting with the troops under fire but don't know how the TKS crew were dressed so any advice would be useful.
Kits involved detailed below
RPM TKS
DRAGON Gebirgsjager Caucasus AND Dragon Gebirgsjager 1940-41
+ any crew I will need for the TKS
I am aware the action would have taken place in 1942/43 but I don't believe the uniforms and kit changed that much?
I did try to post pics of kits but have no idea how to on this site.
Any help will be appreciated.
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Blackwatch1978
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Posted: Saturday, July 16, 2011 - 10:18 AM UTC
WARDUKWNZ
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Posted: Saturday, July 16, 2011 - 11:58 AM UTC
Gra ,,well cant help ya much with the dio idea ( which sounds pretty cool ) but can help you with the pics ... i use Photobucket and it couldnt be easier ..just upload your pics to photobucket ..then go to your albums and just pass your mouse icon over the pic ..it will bring up a little list ..at the bottom of the small list it says IMG copy ... just left click on that and then go to your Armorama page your typing on and right click and hit paste ..bingo matey ..all done ..the code for the pic will appear on the page ,,not the pic ..when you post your message the pic will show and not the code
Give it a blast mate ..its kind of addictive lol
Phill
Give it a blast mate ..its kind of addictive lol
Phill
agramer1966
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Posted: Saturday, July 23, 2011 - 02:23 PM UTC
Sorry for dissapointment but Handzar division did not have any TKS, actually had no armour at all. Small Tankettes used in battles in 1944 in Balkan were italian CV L3/33 mostly in ustasha units.
Motorised parts of the order of the battle of the13. Waffen-Gebirgs-Division der SS Handschar (kroatische Nr. 1) were:
- SS-Waffen-Artillerie-Regiment der SS 13 (artillery regiment)
- SS-Panzerjäger-Abteilung 13 (tenk-destroyer regiment,, unknown equipment)
- Waffen-Flak-Abteilung der SS 13 (AA regiment with Sd.kfz.10/4, have nice original picture will scan tomorrow)
- Kroatische SS-Radfahr-Bataillon (cycle batalion)
- Kroatische SS-Kradschützen-Bataillon (motorcycle batalion)
I am doing now diorama with Sd.kfz.10/4 and mortar team.
Motorised parts of the order of the battle of the13. Waffen-Gebirgs-Division der SS Handschar (kroatische Nr. 1) were:
- SS-Waffen-Artillerie-Regiment der SS 13 (artillery regiment)
- SS-Panzerjäger-Abteilung 13 (tenk-destroyer regiment,, unknown equipment)
- Waffen-Flak-Abteilung der SS 13 (AA regiment with Sd.kfz.10/4, have nice original picture will scan tomorrow)
- Kroatische SS-Radfahr-Bataillon (cycle batalion)
- Kroatische SS-Kradschützen-Bataillon (motorcycle batalion)
I am doing now diorama with Sd.kfz.10/4 and mortar team.
agramer1966
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Posted: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 - 09:16 AM UTC
Promised picture ...
Blackwatch1978
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Posted: Thursday, July 28, 2011 - 02:50 AM UTC
Thanks for the input
I was confused as I thought I had seen seen a picture of a TKS with some Handshar crew, but I checked and they are apparently Croat Army or Ustase TKS which were donated to them by the Germans.
Would it have been probable that these fought at times side by side despite the differences between the Croats and Bosniaks?
I may we change my dio anyway and have a german crewed TKS supporting some regular mountain troops.
I was confused as I thought I had seen seen a picture of a TKS with some Handshar crew, but I checked and they are apparently Croat Army or Ustase TKS which were donated to them by the Germans.
Would it have been probable that these fought at times side by side despite the differences between the Croats and Bosniaks?
I may we change my dio anyway and have a german crewed TKS supporting some regular mountain troops.
agramer1966
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Posted: Saturday, August 06, 2011 - 11:48 AM UTC
Croats and Bosniacks are the same people. Both Croatian Home Guard (regular army) as well as Ustashe units were fighting side-by-side with Wermacht and SS (Handzar was a part of SS). Both used a lot of obsolete equipment like PzKpfw1, TKS, CV03/33 and BA6 as well as home-made vehicles. I was not able to find any proof of usafe of TKS in actual combat. Bare in mind that in montanious terrain TKS would be practically useless.