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Armor/AFV: Modern - USA
Modern Armor, AFVs, and Support vehicles.
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Model Master "Sand" colors
Firecap4
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Posted: Thursday, July 21, 2011 - 02:15 PM UTC
In past posts there has been agreement that Testors Model Master Sand, FS33531, is the closest available color in that line for the shade current US forces AFV's in Iraq and A-stan are painted....seeing how they have FS numbers, I was wondering what application MM's Armor Sand (FS 30277) and Modern Desert Sand (FS 33722) would be appropriate for?
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Posted: Sunday, July 24, 2011 - 02:43 PM UTC
United States Army Europe (USAREUR/7th Army) began pattern painting all tactical vehicles in 1973. There was a 4 color pattern consisting of an Earth Red/Brown, a Medium Green, a Black and the FS 30277. We all thought it was strange painting large areas of vehicles in Europe with a sand color, but out in the field when they got dirty and dusty it was a surprisingly good match.

This scheme was only around for about 3-4 years, and was replaced with a number of other types and eventually the 3 color NATO scheme was adopted.
Firecap4
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Posted: Sunday, July 24, 2011 - 03:35 PM UTC
Thanks Tom, I know the scheme you're referring to, and I had forgotten about it; never thought about the Armor sand being for that one...
Headhunter506
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Posted: Sunday, July 24, 2011 - 07:08 PM UTC

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United States Army Europe (USAREUR/7th Army) began pattern painting all tactical vehicles in 1973. There was a 4 color pattern consisting of an Earth Red/Brown, a Medium Green, a Black and the FS 30277. We all thought it was strange painting large areas of vehicles in Europe with a sand color, but out in the field when they got dirty and dusty it was a surprisingly good match.

This scheme was only around for about 3-4 years, and was replaced with a number of other types and eventually the 3 color NATO scheme was adopted.


The scheme was known as MERDC and was in use from 1976-84. There were twelve colors authorized to be used, in 4 color combinations depending on terrain conditions. Here is a link which describes MERDC:

MERDC camouflage

When I was assigned to A/1/6 INF (Mech) in the early 1980s, maintenance was so bad that we usually went to the auto repair center on Post at Storck Barracks and bought cans of Krylon spray paint, which was a reasonable match, to touch up our tracks.
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Posted: Monday, July 25, 2011 - 02:06 AM UTC

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United States Army Europe (USAREUR/7th Army) began pattern painting all tactical vehicles in 1973. There was a 4 color pattern consisting of an Earth Red/Brown, a Medium Green, a Black and the FS 30277


This was known as the MASSTERS scheme and predated the MERDC schemes.


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The scheme was known as MERDC and was in use from 1976-84.


MERDC came into use in 1975 and vehicles on active duty could be found in this scheme well into the `90s. Many National Guard vehicles can still be found in MERDC schemes.
Headhunter506
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Posted: Monday, July 25, 2011 - 02:50 AM UTC

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Quoted Text

United States Army Europe (USAREUR/7th Army) began pattern painting all tactical vehicles in 1973. There was a 4 color pattern consisting of an Earth Red/Brown, a Medium Green, a Black and the FS 30277


This was known as the MASSTERS scheme and predated the MERDC schemes.


Quoted Text

The scheme was known as MERDC and was in use from 1976-84.


MERDC came into use in 1975 and vehicles on active duty could be found in this scheme well into the `90s. Many National Guard vehicles can still be found in MERDC schemes.


The NATO tri-color scheme was already being introduced in USAREUR in late 1984. I remember seeing M-880s and other support vehicles sporting the new paintjobs while at Grafenwoehr in Feb 1985.
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