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Current status of Tamiya Acrylic paints?
Garrand
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Posted: Saturday, July 30, 2011 - 04:58 PM UTC
So I had heard that Tamiya paints are not currently being imported to the US for some reason. Every local store and vendor I can think of is out of Dark Yellow, and I need some for a few current projects. Anyone know what is going on, and when this issue is expected to be resolved? I emailed Tamiya to see if they will say anything, but no response so far...

BTW, please no Lifecolor reccomendations.My experience with the line has so far been less than positive...

Damon.
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Posted: Saturday, July 30, 2011 - 08:30 PM UTC
we had the same problem with tamiya paint in the uk a couple of years ago. I tried to email them but I have never received a reply. After 2 years the problem item (ts range sprays) finally became availabe again. If the situation over their is the same you will be in for a long wait. It still seems to be freely available over here in Europe have you tried ordering it from the UK?

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Posted: Saturday, July 30, 2011 - 09:33 PM UTC
Hi Have you tried testors Model Master Acrylic

If you are looking to use tamiya Dark Yellow to paint WW2 German Armour then Model Master Panzer Dunkelgelb 1943 SKU# 4796 would be a good choice.

Paul
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Posted: Saturday, July 30, 2011 - 09:51 PM UTC
Or contact one of us UK forum members and we'll get it for you and post it out? Just the cost of the paint and postage. To make it worth your while you'd be better ordering at least 3 of them, depending on how much you needed.
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Posted: Saturday, July 30, 2011 - 10:26 PM UTC
You can still purchase Tamiya paints online. I expect that the price will go up a little for internet orders. But, (if you absolutely, undoubtably need their paints} that is the way to go. With a little searching, you can even get the larger bottles.
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Posted: Saturday, July 30, 2011 - 11:18 PM UTC
Gentlmen,I am in the same boat,(or tank if you will).I have had some tamiya products on my notify me list since before Christmas.For me at least some colors and X-20-A thinner is getting hard to find.Jeff
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Posted: Sunday, July 31, 2011 - 01:17 AM UTC
X-20-A is the acrylic thinner? If so, you can substitute with IPA. I have even used distilled water with a good outcome.
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Posted: Sunday, July 31, 2011 - 03:21 AM UTC

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X-20-A is the acrylic thinner? If so, you can substitute with IPA. I have even used distilled water with a good outcome.

Matt,yes X-20-A is the acrylic thinner.I have been using IPA as a substitute and it works well,but I like to have the "real stuff" on hand in case I have a problem.I have also found that windex w/ammonia works better for brush cleaning than the IPA. Regards,Jeff
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Posted: Sunday, July 31, 2011 - 03:48 AM UTC
Wasn´t there some problem with Tamiya and others having to re-label for export a year or two ago? New restrictions for shipping flmmable and volatile products were introduced globally. Tamiya supplies dried up in Sweden ... flat black and white were hard to come by. But this last few months, the supply is flowing again. Maybe you are now seeing this "gap" in the US logistics? If it is something you can´t do without ... look into mail order as the others have suggested.
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Posted: Sunday, July 31, 2011 - 04:05 AM UTC
i use ebay, and never seem to have an issue, but it does take up to a month for it to get to canada, i search for the large jars 23ml, they go for about $5.50 US including shipping

good luck
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Posted: Sunday, July 31, 2011 - 04:09 AM UTC

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Gentlmen,I am in the same boat,(or tank if you will).I have had some tamiya products on my notify me list since before Christmas.For me at least some colors and X-20-A thinner is getting hard to find.Jeff



Yep, their acrylic thinner is really hard to find here in the States. I had to order mine from abroad. Of course, I ordered enough that would last me a long while. Now I'm looking for their gloss paint and, again, can't seem to find it anywhere. Will probably have to mail order again.

Rob
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Posted: Sunday, July 31, 2011 - 06:24 AM UTC
Wow, had no idea. I've been wondering why my local hobby shop has a rather sparse collection of tamiya paints. I prefer tamiya paints to anything else, but I do have a small collection of testor paints.
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Posted: Sunday, July 31, 2011 - 05:10 PM UTC
Time to ditch the Tamiya, and go with Vallejo...no re-labeling problems here
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Posted: Monday, August 01, 2011 - 01:19 AM UTC
My biggest problem is that Tamiya acrylics cost $1.50 per bottle at my lhs. The next cheapest is $2.50 a bottle for MM. And, that's $3+shipping to order a bottle of Vallejo. I hope I have enough Tamiya paints to hold out for the restrictions to pass.
On a side note, I found that MM acrylics don't need to be thinned for
airbrushing. I know that is a problem lots of people have. Just add a
couple of drops of windex or one of amonia and it sprays beautifully.
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Posted: Monday, August 01, 2011 - 01:23 AM UTC
Per my LHS this is the deal: the re-labeling concerns are correct. The LHS's were told that a big shipment of paint (and primer) were on the early last month. No paint. Turns out that the new labeling hasn't even been submitted to US authorities for approval, and hints are that cashflow is an issue. In short, I don't expect to see any new Tamiya product anytime soon.
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Posted: Monday, August 01, 2011 - 02:31 AM UTC

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My biggest problem is that Tamiya acrylics cost $1.50 per bottle at my lhs. The next cheapest is $2.50 a bottle for MM. And, that's $3+shipping to order a bottle of Vallejo. I hope I have enough Tamiya paints to hold out for the restrictions to pass.
On a side note, I found that MM acrylics don't need to be thinned for
airbrushing. I know that is a problem lots of people have. Just add a
couple of drops of windex or one of amonia and it sprays beautifully.



Yeah, but that $1.50 for Tamiya is obviously for the 10ml bottle, where as the Vallejo is almost twice the size at 17ml, and 10X the quality of paint. You use less because it covers better, and comes in a larger format....probably end up saving money in he end vs buying Tamiya.
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Posted: Monday, August 01, 2011 - 02:41 AM UTC
I seem to remember reading on another forum that the jar making factory was destroyed in the earthquake,not sure if that was true or not
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Posted: Monday, August 01, 2011 - 08:16 AM UTC

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My biggest problem is that Tamiya acrylics cost $1.50 per bottle at my lhs. The next cheapest is $2.50 a bottle for MM. And, that's $3+shipping to order a bottle of Vallejo. I hope I have enough Tamiya paints to hold out for the restrictions to pass.
On a side note, I found that MM acrylics don't need to be thinned for
airbrushing. I know that is a problem lots of people have. Just add a
couple of drops of windex or one of amonia and it sprays beautifully.



$1.50 for 10ml??? Wow, we pay almost $3 a bottle here in Canada. And as for MM Acrylic, it goes on well with an airbrush, BUT, don't attempt to tape it! Even the sight of tape causes MM Acrylics to peel. I will use them if no taping or masking is required, but if there is I use Vallejo or Tamiya. And not sure what is going on there, but we have no issues getting Tamiya in Canada right now.

Garrand
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Posted: Monday, August 01, 2011 - 08:44 AM UTC
Thanks for some of the suggestions so far. Never thought to use Ebay! I had to order a new trigger assembly for my airbrush (Paasche VL, trigger assembly designed 20yrs ago by a sadist), so no hurry on the paint. Here is the message I got back from Tamiya:

"Dear Tamiya Customer,

In an effort to maintain the high standards so many of our customers have
become accustom to and rely on, Tamiya America, Inc is working diligently to
update certain chemical products. A major part of these updates include new
or revised labeling to ensure Tamiya America, Inc. is complying with the
highest consumer safety standards set by the U.S. government in conjunction
with the Consumer Product Safety Commission.

Below is brief update on a few of the key items:

Tamiya Acrylic Paint (813XX, 817XX, 815XX & 810XX)
Tamiya Putty (87053 & 87095)
Tamiya Cements (87012 & 87038)
Tamiya Thinners (81520, 81020, 81030, 81040, & 87077)
Tamiya Primers (87026, 87042, 87044, 87061, 87064, 87075, & 87096)

All items listed above are currently in the process of relabeling and will
be available again in the near future.

Tamiya America continues to work as quickly as possible with all parties
involved to complete the process and provide you with products of the
highest quality and standards.

We apologize for this inconvenience and appreciate your continued support.

Thank you,

Tamiya America
Customer Service"

Damon.
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Posted: Monday, August 01, 2011 - 08:51 AM UTC

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My biggest problem is that Tamiya acrylics cost $1.50 per bottle at my lhs. The next cheapest is $2.50 a bottle for MM. And, that's $3+shipping to order a bottle of Vallejo. I hope I have enough Tamiya paints to hold out for the restrictions to pass.
On a side note, I found that MM acrylics don't need to be thinned for
airbrushing. I know that is a problem lots of people have. Just add a
couple of drops of windex or one of amonia and it sprays beautifully.



$1.50 for 10ml??? Wow, we pay almost $3 a bottle here in Canada. And as for MM Acrylic, it goes on well with an airbrush, BUT, don't attempt to tape it! Even the sight of tape causes MM Acrylics to peel. I will use them if no taping or masking is required, but if there is I use Vallejo or Tamiya. And not sure what is going on there, but we have no issues getting Tamiya in Canada right now.



I don't have any lifting problems with MM acrylics. I am just finishing up a A7V, that I applied MM acryl Sandgelb to. Had to tape it off to spray the machine guns and no problem. I also have a nearly complete Sdkfz. 7 that is all MM acryl, except for a few detail spots, and no problems with lifting. Maybe you got a bad batch.
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Posted: Monday, August 01, 2011 - 10:23 AM UTC
Damon,I'm glad you got a response.That makes me feel a little better.I am a tamiya newb,so bear with me. I don't recognize the part numbers mentioned in the reply.Are they factory numbers or what I'm used to the X- numbers.Am I missing something?Thanks,Jeff
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Posted: Monday, August 01, 2011 - 04:47 PM UTC
Same song and dance they have been giving now since March...so I wouldn't read a whole lot into it.

Yes places in Canada still have them, but it is stocks they have now...the Tamiya importer in Canada (Borgfeldt) is out of alot of the popular products that people my most of...so if you see something you want...grab it as it might be awhile yet.
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Posted: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 - 02:35 AM UTC

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My biggest problem is that Tamiya acrylics cost $1.50 per bottle at my lhs. The next cheapest is $2.50 a bottle for MM. And, that's $3+shipping to order a bottle of Vallejo. I hope I have enough Tamiya paints to hold out for the restrictions to pass.
On a side note, I found that MM acrylics don't need to be thinned for
airbrushing. I know that is a problem lots of people have. Just add a
couple of drops of windex or one of amonia and it sprays beautifully.



I've settled on a 2:1 ratio of paint to thinner for Model Master acrylics, and 1 to 1 for Tamiya Acrylics. Both are air brushed at 18-20 psi.
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Posted: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 - 02:42 AM UTC

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$1.50 for 10ml??? Wow, we pay almost $3 a bottle here in Canada. And as for MM Acrylic, it goes on well with an airbrush, BUT, don't attempt to tape it! Even the sight of tape causes MM Acrylics to peel. I will use them if no taping or masking is required, but if there is I use Vallejo or Tamiya. And not sure what is going on there, but we have no issues getting Tamiya in Canada right now.




I originally had a consistent lifting problem with Model Master Acrylic airbrushed over Model Master acrylic primer. I solved this issue by changing back to Tamiya lacquer Grey primer. The Model Master Acrylic paints stick to it as well as the Tamiya acrylics do. Once dry, I've been able to mask with Tamiya tape without any problems. Not one lifting/peeling problem.

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Posted: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 - 10:00 AM UTC
Went down to buy some paint today because I ran out of Tamiya OD green and have a few models that only need paint/decal, also needed to stock up on other colors and some cement.

Alas, the section at the shop with Tamiya paints was nearly empty......... say a few colors here and there. I ended up picking up a good haul of Testors paint/cement. As for primer, I just use regular rattle can primer you can buy anywhere. Seems to work just fine, though cementing things with the primer on takes a bit more effort. Meh, if it works.....

Also I feel dumb now, I've never thinned out my paints when airbrushing. Not that I used much paint at all when airbrushing. Newbie mistake.
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