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JB Models Saracen
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Posted: Monday, August 15, 2011 - 12:28 AM UTC
After recently finishing a JB Models Saladin armoured Car, I thought I would continue the theme and tackle a JB Models Saracen APC.

This kit was a $1 bagged special purchased at a buy swap and sell.

So far so good. I have added some better defined headlights and tail lights, blocked in the open top hatch as there is no interior details and replaced some missing parts.

I lowered the axles to achieve a better wheel fit that I noticed was an issue with my earlier Saladin Mk2 build, the trick was achieving all six wheels sitting evenly.

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Posted: Monday, August 15, 2011 - 05:45 AM UTC
Michael,

You have piqued my interest with this one. I like to see what can be done with these old kits. I have a JB Saladin in my stash and have been thinking lately about slipping it in as a simpler build. Could you provide a bit more information about this axle problem and how you managed it?

Thanks,
Jan
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Posted: Monday, August 15, 2011 - 06:01 PM UTC

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Michael,

You have piqued my interest with this one. I like to see what can be done with these old kits. I have a JB Saladin in my stash and have been thinking lately about slipping it in as a simpler build. Could you provide a bit more information about this axle problem and how you managed it?

Thanks,
Jan



Jan

If you place the axles as per the location notches in the lower chassis sides, the tops of the wheels almost touch the underside of the chassis top. So the fix is to simply leave the axle undersides slightly proud (about 1-1.5mm) off the bottom of the chassis. This provides a much more inscale clearance, more in keeping for a fully laden Saracen.

My build of the Saladin was great fun and when I get better pics, will post up, along with more progress shots of the Saracen.

It is a pity there are no newer plastic 1:72 kits of these most important post war AFV's. But with some basic work, these JB Models (now Airfix) kits build up a treat.
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Posted: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 - 06:54 AM UTC
Now this is a kit that is more my speed. I've seen these JB ones in the past but never had the inclination to buy one. From what I can see the detail doesn't look too bad. You mention that Airfix now distributes these kits? Definitely something that I'll look into. Thanks for sharing and can't wait to see this one progress.

Regards,
AJ
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Posted: Wednesday, September 07, 2011 - 05:08 PM UTC
More progress.

Base coat of Vallejo Bronze Green on, filters, pin wash and dry brushing.

I had to scratchbuild a new rear number plate as well as some other bits and pieces. However this little British post war vehicle is ready for decals and more weathering.

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Posted: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 - 06:35 AM UTC
Appears to be coming along very nicely, Michael. There is something really neat and nostalgic about these. In an odd development at the last local club meeting this past Sunday, one of these gems showed up in the regular raffle draw. Each meeting the club sells tickets for $1 each and numbers are drawn for kits that have been donated for the purpose from various sources. I don't normally participate as the stuff is usually 1/35 but this month there were several older Braille scale kits. Amongst them were an Airfix Bofors with gun tractor, Airfix Pontoon Bridge, JB Land Rover, a couple of 1/72 aircraft and most importantly, a JB Saracen !! I got a couple of tickets and on the first draw one of my numbers was drawn. The process is first come first pick so I grabbed the Saracen. Hmmm, quite the coincidence that you recently started this thread and I end up with one.

Cheers,
Jan
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Posted: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 - 06:05 PM UTC
Nice score Jan. It is a great little kit.

i have not done a great deal to it since posting the pics. Family stuff has got in the way as it does from time to time.
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Posted: Sunday, October 23, 2011 - 12:32 PM UTC
Finally got this little kit finished. Not taken final pics yet, but here is a pic of the base underway.



The Saracen I have built served in the Malaysian Crisis during the 1950's so the base will look rather green
weathering_one
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Posted: Tuesday, October 25, 2011 - 04:45 AM UTC
Michael,

Thanks for sharing this build. For me, seeing what can be done with these simple older kits is inspirational (and more my speed). I also get a kick out of those great little bases that you come up with.

Regards,
AJ
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Posted: Friday, November 04, 2011 - 01:46 PM UTC
@sabredog – Michael,

It’s always good to see your work here. I’m not sure but I think I have one of these little guys in the stash. I like the little turret and the look of the vehicle, reminds me of the early ‘80s show the ‘A Team’ with Mr. T.

I’ll keep droping by to see how your progressing along, your doing really well with the kit and the base looks promising.

~ Eddy
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Posted: Saturday, November 05, 2011 - 02:18 AM UTC
Well the Saracen is completed and on the base. Just need a little time to take a few pics to share.

It is a great kit that was a great build, marred only by three uniform flaws that I had not expected and only on checking with another Saracen kits were they revealed.

Too late in the build to rectify and frankly if you did not know they were there, you would be none the wiser.
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Posted: Saturday, November 05, 2011 - 02:58 AM UTC
Friendship models in the UK has a very inexpensive set of metal replacement wheels and mounts that correct the tread pattern and address the height issue. Needless to say, they can also be used on the Saladin armoured car. I believe they go for 4Pounds Sterling. www.friendshipmodels.org.uk is the address, though once in a while he has them on E-Bay as well. These sets really do help the overall look of these vehicles. The Landrovers would benefit from some new tyres as well--they appear too small and narrow to me. The range of ex-JB models of modern British vehicles really are little gems; CMSC metal figures,also available from Friendship models, really enhance them!!
weathering_one
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Posted: Saturday, November 05, 2011 - 05:54 AM UTC
I really like seeing these old kits but I wish that you could grace us with more in progress pictures. Can't wait to see the finished product.

Regards,
AJ
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Posted: Friday, November 11, 2011 - 04:06 PM UTC
OK

Finally got the pics taken.

New camera, new issues!

I replaced the awful kit Bren gun for a much nicer, though slightly bigger (1:72) white metal casting given to me by a good friend. Thanks Les!





Comments welcome as always
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Posted: Friday, November 11, 2011 - 04:30 PM UTC
Hi Michael

nice work on the model and base

the red soil you depicted is pretty consistent with what can be seen in Johor in the south of Malaysia

cheers
Neil
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Posted: Friday, November 11, 2011 - 08:14 PM UTC
G'day Michael. Looks great! The base finishes it off nicely.
What brand of grass and clumped grass did you use on the base?
Cheers,
Tim
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Posted: Friday, November 11, 2011 - 11:18 PM UTC
Hi Tim

I used Silfor tufts and Woodland scenics flocks. The rocks are plaster cast from a Noch mould.

Hope that helps

Mike
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Posted: Friday, November 11, 2011 - 11:27 PM UTC
Hi Michael

Great. Little vignette with big result. The Vihicle is also very nice.
Like your model and the coloring.

Cheers Daniel
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Posted: Saturday, November 12, 2011 - 11:14 AM UTC
Good work Michael....
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Posted: Monday, November 14, 2011 - 01:16 PM UTC
Thanks Michael. I''ll have a look for them at my LHS. I think they would suit the base I'm going to do for the M113 FSV.
Cheers,
Tim
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Posted: Thursday, November 17, 2011 - 12:05 PM UTC
Tim

Try Irresistible Force or bna hobbies for Aussie distributors of the Silphor tufts.
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Posted: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 - 10:39 AM UTC
Hi Michael,

A simple model, but a completion of master. Antennas have been very nice...
sabredog
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Posted: Sunday, December 04, 2011 - 11:21 AM UTC
Thanks

Eying off the Vickers light tank as highly placed potential build now!
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Posted: Thursday, December 15, 2011 - 06:25 PM UTC
Hi Michael,

Excellent little dio, with very convincing ground work.

P.A.
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