I'd appreciate any help on this
Hisham
P.S. Can anyone tell me what the dimensions of these panels are.. I mean the spacing between the protruding parts. I hope I described it correctly
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Hisham
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Posted: Thursday, August 18, 2011 - 08:12 AM UTC
Does anyone know if Evergreen make sheets that could simulate those corrugated metal doors that slide up and down? All I can find are sheets of v-groove siding and clapboard siding.. and I don't think those would work, right?
I'd appreciate any help on this
Hisham
P.S. Can anyone tell me what the dimensions of these panels are.. I mean the spacing between the protruding parts. I hope I described it correctly
I'd appreciate any help on this
Hisham
P.S. Can anyone tell me what the dimensions of these panels are.. I mean the spacing between the protruding parts. I hope I described it correctly
newdriftking
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Posted: Thursday, August 18, 2011 - 08:16 AM UTC
Hi Hisham,
I practiced this earlier last year and used very thin Evergreen plastic sheet, and then used a paper crimper (google it!) They are used mainly in papercraft, you should be able to get one from ebay..
I practiced this earlier last year and used very thin Evergreen plastic sheet, and then used a paper crimper (google it!) They are used mainly in papercraft, you should be able to get one from ebay..
Hisham
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Posted: Thursday, August 18, 2011 - 08:41 AM UTC
This tool sounds like a good idea.. BUT.. we don't have PayPal in Egypt so I can't buy from e-bay... and I found them at Amazon, but for some reason they don't ship these items to Egypt 
Thanks a lot for the idea.. but I'll just have to look for another method
Hisham
Thanks a lot for the idea.. but I'll just have to look for another method
Hisham
parrot
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Posted: Thursday, August 18, 2011 - 08:50 AM UTC
Hi guys,
I have had this for so long I can't remember were I got it.It may be just what your looking for.I have more than enough and would be happy to send you some.
Tom
I have had this for so long I can't remember were I got it.It may be just what your looking for.I have more than enough and would be happy to send you some.
Tom
18Bravo
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Posted: Thursday, August 18, 2011 - 08:52 AM UTC
V Groove with .100 spacing will work for some types of doors, although the spacing is a bit large for my taste. Metal Siding with .125 spacing looks okay, but the .100 looks the best to me. You are correct though. Clapboard siding wouldn't look right for it, although it's great for louvers.
For actual corrugated metal like in the doors below (victims of a nearby EID) a model railroad company called Campbell used to have a huge selection of kits based on corrugated metal that scaled out very well for what you need to resemble the photo. They're still on Ebay from time to time, and I've even seen them in a few stores in Portland, OR.
For actual corrugated metal like in the doors below (victims of a nearby EID) a model railroad company called Campbell used to have a huge selection of kits based on corrugated metal that scaled out very well for what you need to resemble the photo. They're still on Ebay from time to time, and I've even seen them in a few stores in Portland, OR.
Hisham
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Posted: Thursday, August 18, 2011 - 09:23 AM UTC
Hey, Tom... I sent you a PM.
Robert, thanks for the info.. I think I'll try one of those v-groove sheets like you described and see how it looks... I'm sure I can always use it for other projects if it doesn't look right
Thanks guys
Hisham
Robert, thanks for the info.. I think I'll try one of those v-groove sheets like you described and see how it looks... I'm sure I can always use it for other projects if it doesn't look right
Thanks guys
Hisham
Hisham
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Posted: Thursday, August 18, 2011 - 09:26 AM UTC
Oh, Tom... I just noticed something. The first pic you posted doesn't show.. but in the second one.. that sign on the building with the light blue writing is actually upside down
If you like modern stuff and ever need anything with Arabic writing, please let me know.
Hisham
If you like modern stuff and ever need anything with Arabic writing, please let me know.
Hisham
18Bravo
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Posted: Thursday, August 18, 2011 - 09:32 AM UTC
Here's a photo showing how the V-groove will work very well, with very defined separation between the panels:
And this one showing the typical roll up corrugated doors, like the destroyed ones in my previous post. Note mix of uniforms. Oh, and note to figure makers-how about some kids dressed in western style clothing, as seen above? Not every kid over there was wearing short Salafi style dish dashas with skull caps. We've seen enough of those.
And this one showing the typical roll up corrugated doors, like the destroyed ones in my previous post. Note mix of uniforms. Oh, and note to figure makers-how about some kids dressed in western style clothing, as seen above? Not every kid over there was wearing short Salafi style dish dashas with skull caps. We've seen enough of those.
Redprol
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Posted: Thursday, August 18, 2011 - 09:38 AM UTC
Hi,
When ive done this in the past i simpley stuck some cocktail sticks down on some scrap wood and then laid tin foil over them and simpley rubbed it until it resembled the shape, its delicate after but very easy to work with, i.e. damage, bend etc one thing i did find was its best to primer it with a car primer before painting.
Steve
Redprol
When ive done this in the past i simpley stuck some cocktail sticks down on some scrap wood and then laid tin foil over them and simpley rubbed it until it resembled the shape, its delicate after but very easy to work with, i.e. damage, bend etc one thing i did find was its best to primer it with a car primer before painting.
Steve
Redprol
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Posted: Thursday, August 18, 2011 - 09:50 AM UTC
Tom,
I've got the perfect photo for your shop with the bottle jack and tires out front:
I've got the perfect photo for your shop with the bottle jack and tires out front:
retiredyank
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Posted: Thursday, August 18, 2011 - 09:52 AM UTC
If you are willing to put the time in, you can use aluminum foil to make corrugated metal. Cut a piece slightly wider and longer than you want. fold the edges in, so that it measures a little longer than you want. Carefully fold the aluminum into small strips running the direction you want. It's labor intensive, but very rewarding to make your own. Plus, it's extremely cheap.
Spiderfrommars
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Posted: Thursday, August 18, 2011 - 10:01 AM UTC
Hi Hisham
I've found a tutorial about how to make corrugated plates from aluminum foils. Is written in italian so i'll post the pics which are very clear anyway
Here
http://forum.tantopergioco.it/discussion/2656/a-me-art-attack-mi-fa-na-sega/p1
you can find another usefull tutorial
cheers
I've found a tutorial about how to make corrugated plates from aluminum foils. Is written in italian so i'll post the pics which are very clear anyway
Here
http://forum.tantopergioco.it/discussion/2656/a-me-art-attack-mi-fa-na-sega/p1
you can find another usefull tutorial
cheers
Hisham
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Posted: Thursday, August 18, 2011 - 10:24 AM UTC
Thanks a lot for all your help, guys..
Matt & Mauro, I remember seeing something like that a long time ago, but my problem is finding aluminum foil here in Egypt.. all I could find is the thin kitchen type which wouldn't work. I tried looking everywhere for the thicker type but I couldn't.. you can't believe how limited resources are here.. so many things I can't find in stores here.. and even when I find them online.. a lot of times I discover that the store doesn't ship to Egypt.. so, I just to improvise.. or manage with whatever I can get here!
Anyway, sorry to bother you with my "logistics" problem
Thanks again to you all
Hisham
Matt & Mauro, I remember seeing something like that a long time ago, but my problem is finding aluminum foil here in Egypt.. all I could find is the thin kitchen type which wouldn't work. I tried looking everywhere for the thicker type but I couldn't.. you can't believe how limited resources are here.. so many things I can't find in stores here.. and even when I find them online.. a lot of times I discover that the store doesn't ship to Egypt.. so, I just to improvise.. or manage with whatever I can get here!
Anyway, sorry to bother you with my "logistics" problem
Thanks again to you all
Hisham
Hisham
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Posted: Thursday, August 18, 2011 - 10:31 AM UTC
I actually thought about using Evergreen half round beams and space them out.. but I don't think the regular thin kitchen type foil would work.. or even hold it's shape after trying to handle it.
Anyway, I'll try the Evergreen v-groove sheets and see how it goes.
Hisham
Anyway, I'll try the Evergreen v-groove sheets and see how it goes.
Hisham
jimbrae
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Posted: Thursday, August 18, 2011 - 10:38 AM UTC
Even simpler. You can get very fine corruageted paper of very finely corrugated card in stationer's which I repeatedly use. Simply mount it on fine plasticard, give it a coat of Gesso (for preparing artist's canvas) you'll then have a surface which won't warp and will take any kind of paint...
Hope this helps!
arkhunter
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Posted: Thursday, August 18, 2011 - 02:26 PM UTC
I used Evergreen products (I'd have to look up the technical parts whenever I'm home next, probably october) for the two doors.
Then for the other corrugated steel used to cover the top of the roof access, I took aluminum foil, placed it over the stryene and then rubbed it with a qtip.
Then for the other corrugated steel used to cover the top of the roof access, I took aluminum foil, placed it over the stryene and then rubbed it with a qtip.
Spiderfrommars
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Posted: Thursday, August 18, 2011 - 04:52 PM UTC
Quoted Text
Thanks a lot for all your help, guys..
Matt & Mauro, I remember seeing something like that a long time ago, but my problem is finding aluminum foil here in Egypt.. all I could find is the thin kitchen type which wouldn't work. I tried looking everywhere for the thicker type but I couldn't.. you can't believe how limited resources are here.. so many things I can't find in stores here.. and even when I find them online.. a lot of times I discover that the store doesn't ship to Egypt.. so, I just to improvise.. or manage with whatever I can get here!
Anyway, sorry to bother you with my "logistics" problem
Thanks again to you all
Hisham
I understand Hisham and don't worry, you don't bother me at all
Is it possible for you finding aluminium trays?
they are made from a thicker aluminium foil so they are almost perfect for your needs. You can also obtain a quite good alumium foil (which is good also to reproduce tarps and belts) unfolding an empty mayonese (or sauce) tube
You could also try to use aluminum tins obtained from drink cans, but you should burn them on a flame before using. Otherwise they would be a little too stiff to be embossed
I hope this could help you
WARDUKWNZ
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Posted: Thursday, August 18, 2011 - 05:02 PM UTC
Hisham ... mate what do ya think your chances of finding very thin copper plate is like ? its used pretty much every where and costs bugger all .. i brought some here in NZ for a 1 metre x 300mm and cost like $19 NZ ..oh its .20 mm thick and super easy to work with ..i know you can get thinner ,,hope you have some luck finding this or thin alloy mate
Spiderfrommars
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Posted: Thursday, August 18, 2011 - 05:11 PM UTC
...that's an awesome diorama indeed Austin...
posty1978
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Posted: Friday, August 19, 2011 - 01:35 AM UTC
interesting and informative thread...would like to ask a question
how would the kitchen types aluminium foil will work if I cut a large sheet and fold them into 2-3 folds to increase the thickness and then use straws to emboss the corrugated impression? will it work?
how would the kitchen types aluminium foil will work if I cut a large sheet and fold them into 2-3 folds to increase the thickness and then use straws to emboss the corrugated impression? will it work?
retiredyank
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Posted: Friday, August 19, 2011 - 02:33 AM UTC
Hisham, no question is ever a bother. As Mauro pointed out, baking pans and pie plates provide a heavier aluminum foil. You could also start with a large piece of thinner kitchen foil and fold it over on itself several times. It may not be as strong as plastic or lead foil; but if you build it, paint it and wait till the end of the project to attache it you needn't worry about strength.
Hisham
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Posted: Friday, August 19, 2011 - 02:57 AM UTC
Thank you all for your input, guys
I stopped by the supermarket this morning and found they did sell some of those foil trays, so I bought a couple and will try them out. I also found that Palstruct has a sheet listed as "1/32 scale corrugated sheet", so I ordered a couple and I'll let you guys know if they look good next to some figures. It'll be at least two weeks before I get them, though!
I think the plastic sheets will be good for a door panel that is intact... but I still want to try with the foil.. because that is much easier to do damage to.. like bending and bullet or shrapnel holes.
I'll post some pics when I try them and show you how they turned out.
Thanks again
Hisham
I stopped by the supermarket this morning and found they did sell some of those foil trays, so I bought a couple and will try them out. I also found that Palstruct has a sheet listed as "1/32 scale corrugated sheet", so I ordered a couple and I'll let you guys know if they look good next to some figures. It'll be at least two weeks before I get them, though!
I think the plastic sheets will be good for a door panel that is intact... but I still want to try with the foil.. because that is much easier to do damage to.. like bending and bullet or shrapnel holes.
I'll post some pics when I try them and show you how they turned out.
Thanks again
Hisham
Hisham
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Posted: Friday, August 19, 2011 - 02:59 AM UTC
By the way, Austin, that Black Hawk dio looks awesome!
Hisham
Hisham
parrot
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Posted: Friday, August 19, 2011 - 05:24 AM UTC
Hi Hisham,
I'm having problems with my PM,s.Can't seem to send any.I've emailed Amorama and hopefully can get it striaghtend out today.
Tom
I'm having problems with my PM,s.Can't seem to send any.I've emailed Amorama and hopefully can get it striaghtend out today.
Tom
Spiderfrommars
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Posted: Friday, August 19, 2011 - 06:29 AM UTC
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interesting and informative thread...would like to ask a question
how would the kitchen types aluminium foil will work if I cut a large sheet and fold them into 2-3 folds to increase the thickness and then use straws to emboss the corrugated impression? will it work?
Yes, it works but you have to pay attention when you cut the foil. Layers aren't glued each other so if you cut a shape where there isn't a bend, they will exfoliate
Anyway, aluminum is a very "forgiving" material. If you make an embossing mistake you can roll out your foil under a common rolling pin (or a glass bottle) and it will appear as new
I personally like a lot using alumum. I use also the aluminum self adhesive tape
Usually it's thicker than common aluminum kitchen foils and adhesivity allows to reproduce belts, ribs, raised panels, frames... and even bolts
The only aluminum drawback is that the blades which you use to cut it have a very short lasting
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