Hi at all,
here is some of my WiP at the Moment. I am working at an little dio with some SASR Figures and an vignette with two or three LRRP Figures. Nearly all of them will be conversions from different Manufactures like Bravo-6 and Hobby Fan etc. There will be five to six SASR with one ore more captured VC and one of the SASR guys will have an Camera in his hands and makes some Photos of the successful Mission.
Here are the Photos:
Hope you like them :-) and feel free to comment and add critic
Greetings
Stefan
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Posted: Sunday, August 21, 2011 - 11:12 PM UTC
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Posted: Sunday, August 21, 2011 - 11:24 PM UTC
very nice mate! cant wait to see more!
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Posted: Sunday, August 21, 2011 - 11:24 PM UTC
Looking good so far. How is the size difference between different manufacturers? I'm particularly interested in Hobby Fan and Bravo6 figures... can they be used together in a dio without any noticable size discrepancies?
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Posted: Monday, August 22, 2011 - 12:23 AM UTC
Thanks Matt and Mario,
for your kind words. i am not an fast modeler so perhaps next weekend there will be an update with the next Figure/s .
@Mario - Itīs no Problem to use both Manufactures together. The first Figure from me is an conversion with parts from Bravo-6 and Hobby Fan The upper body from the Hobby-Fan Figure fits perfectliy on that lower part from Bravo-6. I have to fill the very small gabs around the parts which were from cuting with some magic sculpt so you get an perfect fit and it looks like one part. so I was very happy about that .You can see how small the gab is at the second Photo. You see it nearly only at the photo so small is it.. Nearly All my conversions are and will be from these both manufactures because they fit really good together and you get an top quality Figure.
Only some of the equipment and arms etc. will be from different manufactures like Dragon, Trumpeter etc. or i convert the original parts a little.
Greetings
Stefan
for your kind words. i am not an fast modeler so perhaps next weekend there will be an update with the next Figure/s .
@Mario - Itīs no Problem to use both Manufactures together. The first Figure from me is an conversion with parts from Bravo-6 and Hobby Fan The upper body from the Hobby-Fan Figure fits perfectliy on that lower part from Bravo-6. I have to fill the very small gabs around the parts which were from cuting with some magic sculpt so you get an perfect fit and it looks like one part. so I was very happy about that .You can see how small the gab is at the second Photo. You see it nearly only at the photo so small is it.. Nearly All my conversions are and will be from these both manufactures because they fit really good together and you get an top quality Figure.
Only some of the equipment and arms etc. will be from different manufactures like Dragon, Trumpeter etc. or i convert the original parts a little.
Greetings
Stefan
Posted: Monday, August 22, 2011 - 12:56 AM UTC
Some great conversion work there Stefan. I'm looking forward to seeing how this turns out.
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Posted: Monday, August 22, 2011 - 01:33 AM UTC
Nice work on the figs. My only criticism would be that you need to replace the guns. Trumpeter makes a couple of nice sets that you can use.
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Posted: Monday, August 22, 2011 - 06:39 AM UTC
Hello Karl and Matt,
thanks a lot for your reply. The LRRP guy has an Trumpeter XM-177. Realy great Detail at this weapon for this scale. I mainly use the Tumpeter ones or some from Dragon sets. My main conversion will be an SLR rifle with XM-148 grenade luncher under the barrel. I think it will be looking awsome.
Next FIgure will be with grenade vest and if it works this kind of weapon
I will make the Figures parallel tbecause they should interactive with each other later.
Stefan
thanks a lot for your reply. The LRRP guy has an Trumpeter XM-177. Realy great Detail at this weapon for this scale. I mainly use the Tumpeter ones or some from Dragon sets. My main conversion will be an SLR rifle with XM-148 grenade luncher under the barrel. I think it will be looking awsome.
Next FIgure will be with grenade vest and if it works this kind of weapon
I will make the Figures parallel tbecause they should interactive with each other later.
Stefan
Posted: Monday, August 22, 2011 - 08:50 AM UTC
I'm looking forward to seeing that SLR with Grenade launcher, very interesting choice of weapon.
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Posted: Monday, August 22, 2011 - 10:28 PM UTC
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I'm looking forward to seeing that SLR with Grenade launcher, very interesting choice of weapon.
Thats the automatic version of the L1A1. shortened barrel and gas system, commonly called the lady. The SASR would cut the barrels short so when fired would sound like a .50cal with a huge flash. Scare the bejesus out of the enemy!
Posted: Monday, August 22, 2011 - 11:54 PM UTC
Interesting info there Matt, cheers!
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Posted: Monday, August 29, 2011 - 03:02 PM UTC
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Quoted TextI'm looking forward to seeing that SLR with Grenade launcher, very interesting choice of weapon.
Thats the automatic version of the L1A1. shortened barrel and gas system, commonly called the lady. The SASR would cut the barrels short so when fired would sound like a .50cal with a huge flash. Scare the bejesus out of the enemy!
Actually it is a bit of a bastardised version of an L1A1. I thought initially it was an L2A1 AR but the barrel looks like the standard light SLR barrel as the AR barrel has much thicker from the gas plug back. The thickness of the barrel at the chamber end would extend to just short of the gas port.
A standard L1A1 wasn't capable of full auto but a strageically placed match stick or a trip to the Artificer was all that was needed to make it so. It wouldn't be selective fire though but again an Armourer could do that too. As far as I am aware the SAS tended to just do the field mod, largely to make it a noisy "Bitch" (not lady)
It does however have the AR sight on the dust cover but this can be achieved by simply swapping dust covers but why you would want to do that on a rifle that has its barrel cut off I have no idea. Certainly on this one the barrel has been cut off just behind the flash suppressor.
The magazine on this one is not an L2A1 mag, which is straight, it is the slightly curved L4A4 Bren magazine. These held 30 rounds but did not work as well as the straight L2A1 magazine as they were designed to feed from above the weapon.
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Posted: Monday, August 29, 2011 - 09:25 PM UTC
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Quoted TextQuoted TextI'm looking forward to seeing that SLR with Grenade launcher, very interesting choice of weapon.
Thats the automatic version of the L1A1. shortened barrel and gas system, commonly called the lady. The SASR would cut the barrels short so when fired would sound like a .50cal with a huge flash. Scare the bejesus out of the enemy!
Actually it is a bit of a bastardised version of an L1A1. I thought initially it was an L2A1 AR but the barrel looks like the standard light SLR barrel as the AR barrel has much thicker from the gas plug back. The thickness of the barrel at the chamber end would extend to just short of the gas port.
A standard L1A1 wasn't capable of full auto but a strageically placed match stick or a trip to the Artificer was all that was needed to make it so. It wouldn't be selective fire though but again an Armourer could do that too. As far as I am aware the SAS tended to just do the field mod, largely to make it a noisy "Bitch" (not lady)
It does however have the AR sight on the dust cover but this can be achieved by simply swapping dust covers but why you would want to do that on a rifle that has its barrel cut off I have no idea. Certainly on this one the barrel has been cut off just behind the flash suppressor.
The magazine on this one is not an L2A1 mag, which is straight, it is the slightly curved L4A4 Bren magazine. These held 30 rounds but did not work as well as the straight L2A1 magazine as they were designed to feed from above the weapon.
I'm pretty sure it's an L2A1. I've had a few talks with some of the chicken stranglers from that time, and they agree. The barrel is definately thicker than a standard SLR. And the safety catch is def L2A1. (thats the other L1A1's weren't preferred for the full auto conversion too often, as the barrels could, (and did!) heat up and bend.
I did call it a "bitch" but it auto cencored me!
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Posted: Monday, August 29, 2011 - 09:49 PM UTC
http://www.adxtactical.com/store/pc/viewPrd.asp?idproduct=1974&idcategory=
Have a look at that link, I too thought it was an L2A1 but I'm still not convinced. If you look at the barrel from the receiver to the gas port you can see in the photo it appears to be the same thickness. Now look at the photo in the link and you can see the barrel is the same thickness as the barrel at the receiver and extends at that thickness all the way along but then narrows down about 50mm or so back from the gas port.
Having said that the connection for the GL does obscure the point where the barrel would neck down.
The main reason I think it is an ordinary L1A1 is that I know from my own experience you can fit your fingers in between the gas tube and the barrel on the L1 but not on the L2, I reckon the weapon in the photo has too big a gap.
I do know the L1A1 was "converted" in large numbers from my instructors when I was in the army most of whom were left overs from the Vietnam War.
Having said all that I reckon it's too close to call either way and for the sake of Stefan's build pretty much 6 of one and half doz of the other.
As we well know well anything goes with the SAS boys and their toys !
The M-14 and XM-177 are spot on, not so sure about the grenades on the pouches or the ethnicity of the first trooper.
Have a look at that link, I too thought it was an L2A1 but I'm still not convinced. If you look at the barrel from the receiver to the gas port you can see in the photo it appears to be the same thickness. Now look at the photo in the link and you can see the barrel is the same thickness as the barrel at the receiver and extends at that thickness all the way along but then narrows down about 50mm or so back from the gas port.
Having said that the connection for the GL does obscure the point where the barrel would neck down.
The main reason I think it is an ordinary L1A1 is that I know from my own experience you can fit your fingers in between the gas tube and the barrel on the L1 but not on the L2, I reckon the weapon in the photo has too big a gap.
I do know the L1A1 was "converted" in large numbers from my instructors when I was in the army most of whom were left overs from the Vietnam War.
Having said all that I reckon it's too close to call either way and for the sake of Stefan's build pretty much 6 of one and half doz of the other.
As we well know well anything goes with the SAS boys and their toys !
The M-14 and XM-177 are spot on, not so sure about the grenades on the pouches or the ethnicity of the first trooper.
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Posted: Saturday, September 10, 2011 - 09:54 PM UTC
seems like your right there scott. i used to carry an L2 around a fair bit, but this was over 15 years ago now! pity the pic wasnt clearer.
I was shown the matchstick trick, and also a bit of hootchie cord with a loop tied in the end to pull it out quickly incase someone wanted to "inspect" your rifle. I was lucky enough when i owned a couple of SLR's and "aquire" an L2 safety catch. awesome fun!
I was shown the matchstick trick, and also a bit of hootchie cord with a loop tied in the end to pull it out quickly incase someone wanted to "inspect" your rifle. I was lucky enough when i owned a couple of SLR's and "aquire" an L2 safety catch. awesome fun!
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Posted: Sunday, September 11, 2011 - 08:46 PM UTC
Hi Matt and Scott,
i think you are both right. Itīs a conversion of the L1A1 and L2A1. These rifles like the one on the Photo were field modified, often from heavy barrelled L2A1 Automatic rifles, with their barrels chopped off immediately in front of the gas block, and often with the L2A1 bipods removed and a XM148 40 mm grenade launcher mounted below the barrel. The XM148 40 mm grenade launchers were obtained from U.S. forces. For the L1A1, the lack of fully-automatic fire resulted in the unofficial conversion of the L1A1 to full-auto capability by simple filing of the selector, or by inserting a 'foreign body' to block the sear.They would typically be equipped with 30-round magazines, either the straight version specifically made for the L2A1, or the slightly curved on used on the L4A1. (As this mag was designed to feed downwards it often had an extra spring inserted to help feed upwards properly). That is what i have found out about this kind of weapon. If you fire this baby on full-Auto it must be a shocking moment for the enemy. I will post new pictures a couple of days of my WIP.
Greetings
Stefan
i think you are both right. Itīs a conversion of the L1A1 and L2A1. These rifles like the one on the Photo were field modified, often from heavy barrelled L2A1 Automatic rifles, with their barrels chopped off immediately in front of the gas block, and often with the L2A1 bipods removed and a XM148 40 mm grenade launcher mounted below the barrel. The XM148 40 mm grenade launchers were obtained from U.S. forces. For the L1A1, the lack of fully-automatic fire resulted in the unofficial conversion of the L1A1 to full-auto capability by simple filing of the selector, or by inserting a 'foreign body' to block the sear.They would typically be equipped with 30-round magazines, either the straight version specifically made for the L2A1, or the slightly curved on used on the L4A1. (As this mag was designed to feed downwards it often had an extra spring inserted to help feed upwards properly). That is what i have found out about this kind of weapon. If you fire this baby on full-Auto it must be a shocking moment for the enemy. I will post new pictures a couple of days of my WIP.
Greetings
Stefan
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Posted: Sunday, September 11, 2011 - 10:01 PM UTC
Looking forward to it Stefan can't wait to see how you go making an L(whatever) "Bitch" !