Saw this over at PMMS, along with a few other updates. Don't know if it's old news or not. I'm happy to see it. I'd be happier to see more prime movers to attach to the gun. Maybe the M5 HST?
What are the chances that Bronco will follow up with the 4.5 inch gun? It used th same carriage as the 155 and was used by both US and British forces in NW Europe.
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Posted: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 - 09:46 AM UTC
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>>the 4.5 inch gun? It used th same carriage as the 155 and was used by both US and British forces in NW Europe.
Russ,
Are you sure about this? I'm pretty sure that the US didn't have a 4.5" gun of its own and that the Brit 4.5" was similar to the 5.5" medium and was fielded on the 5.5" carriage and towed by the Matador.
Paul
Russ,
Are you sure about this? I'm pretty sure that the US didn't have a 4.5" gun of its own and that the Brit 4.5" was similar to the 5.5" medium and was fielded on the 5.5" carriage and towed by the Matador.
Paul
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Posted: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 - 02:13 PM UTC
According to Wikipedia....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4.5_inch_Gun_M1
"The 4.5 inch Gun M1 was a field gun developed in the United States in the beginning of World War II. It shared the same carriage with the 155mm Howitzer M1 and fired the same ammunition as the British BL 4.5 inch Medium Field Gun. The weapon was used by the US Army in Northwest Europe late in the war for corps support; with the end of hostilities it was declared obsolete.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4.5_inch_Gun_M1
"The 4.5 inch Gun M1 was a field gun developed in the United States in the beginning of World War II. It shared the same carriage with the 155mm Howitzer M1 and fired the same ammunition as the British BL 4.5 inch Medium Field Gun. The weapon was used by the US Army in Northwest Europe late in the war for corps support; with the end of hostilities it was declared obsolete.
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redleg12
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Posted: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 - 02:13 PM UTC
Russ - Not old but not new. What I think will be more interesting is the possible M44 SP howitzer!!
I see lots of kits being mated to produce a number of kits
Rounds Complete!!
I see lots of kits being mated to produce a number of kits
Rounds Complete!!
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Posted: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 - 02:33 PM UTC
This is a most welcomes addition to the Battery position. With a few updates, it can become a Vietnam-era M114A1 as well.
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Posted: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 - 02:40 PM UTC
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What I think will be more interesting is the possible M44 SP howitzer!!
Funny you should mention that one. Give it time.
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Posted: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 - 02:45 PM UTC
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What I think will be more interesting is the possible M44 SP howitzer!!
Or an M41 Gorilla HMC, esp. since Bronco has also announced a future M24 Chaffee tank kit.
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Posted: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 - 03:13 PM UTC
I've read on a couple of artillery related sites about the 4.5" gun, which was reportedly very popular in spite of the limited explosive because of the excellent accuracy of the gun. At any rate, I would love the 155.
I am also hoping for the M41 HMC. Most particularly because of it's use with the 213th Field Artillery Battalion in Korea http://www.kcsg.com/view/full_story/13469902/article-The-Story-Behind-the-213th-Field-Artillery-Battalion-60th-Year-Commemoration?instance=home_stories4 ,
There is a lot more to the story, which is really quite amazing. It would be a very nice, commemorative piece.
I am also hoping for the M41 HMC. Most particularly because of it's use with the 213th Field Artillery Battalion in Korea http://www.kcsg.com/view/full_story/13469902/article-The-Story-Behind-the-213th-Field-Artillery-Battalion-60th-Year-Commemoration?instance=home_stories4 ,
There is a lot more to the story, which is really quite amazing. It would be a very nice, commemorative piece.
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Posted: Tuesday, August 30, 2011 - 05:37 AM UTC
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Saw this over at PMMS, along with a few other updates. Don't know if it's old news or not. I'm happy to see it. I'd be happier to see more prime movers to attach to the gun. Maybe the M5 HST?
What are the chances that Bronco will follow up with the 4.5 inch gun? It used th same carriage as the 155 and was used by both US and British forces in NW Europe.
that new release is the WWII & Korean war version. Carriage is alittle different, and the center jack is much different. I don't think it would be all that hard to convert the Bronco kit into an M114 as the main differnces I've seen are mostly brackets (seems like the shields might also be different). Never heard of a 4.5" howitzer.
gary
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Posted: Tuesday, August 30, 2011 - 05:59 AM UTC
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I'm pretty sure that the US didn't have a 4.5" gun of its own
From this walkaround on Primeportal :
http://www.primeportal.net/artillery/david_lueck/m1_4.5in_gun/
HTH
Frenchy
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Posted: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 - 06:14 AM UTC
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Obviously I stand corrected. This is cool! I had no idea that the US not only designed, but fielded a 4.5" piece in WW II.
Given that only a few hundred were made and only served for the last bit of WW 2 in NWE, I'd bet no-one will put out a styrene kit of this. However, given that the gun used the same M1 carriage as the 155 How. it wouldn't be terribly difficult to make a conversion for the kit to turn it into a 4.5" gun. New barrel, cylindrical breech, mostly cylindrical components, some lands to connect it to the carriage & a few parts for the breech & you're good to go.
Y'know, it might be worth me checking with some of the aftermarket guys to see if they might want a master of the beastie...
Paul
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I'm pretty sure that the US didn't have a 4.5" gun of its own
Obviously I stand corrected. This is cool! I had no idea that the US not only designed, but fielded a 4.5" piece in WW II.
Given that only a few hundred were made and only served for the last bit of WW 2 in NWE, I'd bet no-one will put out a styrene kit of this. However, given that the gun used the same M1 carriage as the 155 How. it wouldn't be terribly difficult to make a conversion for the kit to turn it into a 4.5" gun. New barrel, cylindrical breech, mostly cylindrical components, some lands to connect it to the carriage & a few parts for the breech & you're good to go.
Y'know, it might be worth me checking with some of the aftermarket guys to see if they might want a master of the beastie...
Paul
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Posted: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 - 06:29 AM UTC
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Given that only a few hundred were made and only served for the last bit of WW 2 in NWE, I'd bet no-one will put out a styrene kit of this.
You mean like how no one puts out styrene kits of all those kits of all that German stuff that existed in small numbers or were never even built?
Not saying that you're wrong, but there's something of a double standard on stating that things that were used for only brief periods in small numbers is of no interest.
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